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<p>[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2799892, member: 88736"]@Burton. Soldier is not a good example to see things clear. Ok, lets replace soldier by a simple, say, a building stone worker during Roman time. </p><p>Now, lets rewrite your words, combining. </p><p><br /></p><p>A Roman worker was literate enough to know dupondius coin as he had to work hard for it, he knew it was used in the marketplace. </p><p>So, he worked and earned some coin in one day (how much earned? lets say ****** pcs of coin) - then, he went to the butcher to buy a leg of dead sheep (worker paid how much? lets say *** pcs of coin) - then, he went to the baker to buy a bread (worker paid how much? lets say, * pcs of coin) - then, he went to the wine merchant to buy a bottle of wine (worker paid how much? lets say, ** pcs of coin)... So, "how much" did that worker earn and spend? Actually instead of "how much",, it should have been said "how many" and I did this when saying payments as "pieces/pcs" of coins.. What else I can do when there is "no value" on the coin/s... Now, imagine what if he wants to buy a house which costs ******************** pcs of coins which he should carry within a big bag.... So, there must be "values" one the coins, but, in ancient days, there was not any value on the coins... Then, how can these be explained? I can think of these: 1) governmental authority coins were limited to certain cases (such as for soldiers only during a war) 2) and, ordinary folks were using something else in their exchanges/trades or were not using any coin and this is possible as each person was a building stone worker, a butcher, a baker, etc at the same time, so, they didn't need any coin and they were rarely using coins in trades with soldiers, by trading, say, swords and coins given to soldiers by governments of the day.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, when there is no any assigned value on coins, these happen. Values represented on such coins are not scientific (mathematic etc) values, but, "royal" values. Still, it is not much different today. After all, I claim, in old days and also today, governmental authorities (including central banks) do not know scientific value of coins, hence, national portraits flags etc royal values on the coins in the world are more highlighted than scientific values. People in the world including governments do not know what the coin is...</p><p><br /></p><p>Edited to say, as a response to Hommer, as I saw his post after posting my this post... Greeks knew some mathematics, but, not the mathematics of coin and no need to blame them, even today, in space age, we know how to send satellites to the space, using some advanced mathematics, but, still, we do not know coin mathematics... If we (world) knew, millions of different coins in last century/millenium wouldn't have come and gone, to the garbage. Coin collectors should be appreciated/awarded by world governments, they have union, UN.. Somethings wrong, isn't it. Maybe, I misunderstood Hommer's last words. My word, coins were before mathematics, was to state/indicate a reality because of no any numeral on old coins. Perhaps, it was because of "royals" who ordered the mints without any numeral/count on the coins, but, with their own royal powers only. Mathematics and coins, among ordinary folks, were hand to hand.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2799892, member: 88736"]@Burton. Soldier is not a good example to see things clear. Ok, lets replace soldier by a simple, say, a building stone worker during Roman time. Now, lets rewrite your words, combining. A Roman worker was literate enough to know dupondius coin as he had to work hard for it, he knew it was used in the marketplace. So, he worked and earned some coin in one day (how much earned? lets say ****** pcs of coin) - then, he went to the butcher to buy a leg of dead sheep (worker paid how much? lets say *** pcs of coin) - then, he went to the baker to buy a bread (worker paid how much? lets say, * pcs of coin) - then, he went to the wine merchant to buy a bottle of wine (worker paid how much? lets say, ** pcs of coin)... So, "how much" did that worker earn and spend? Actually instead of "how much",, it should have been said "how many" and I did this when saying payments as "pieces/pcs" of coins.. What else I can do when there is "no value" on the coin/s... Now, imagine what if he wants to buy a house which costs ******************** pcs of coins which he should carry within a big bag.... So, there must be "values" one the coins, but, in ancient days, there was not any value on the coins... Then, how can these be explained? I can think of these: 1) governmental authority coins were limited to certain cases (such as for soldiers only during a war) 2) and, ordinary folks were using something else in their exchanges/trades or were not using any coin and this is possible as each person was a building stone worker, a butcher, a baker, etc at the same time, so, they didn't need any coin and they were rarely using coins in trades with soldiers, by trading, say, swords and coins given to soldiers by governments of the day. So, when there is no any assigned value on coins, these happen. Values represented on such coins are not scientific (mathematic etc) values, but, "royal" values. Still, it is not much different today. After all, I claim, in old days and also today, governmental authorities (including central banks) do not know scientific value of coins, hence, national portraits flags etc royal values on the coins in the world are more highlighted than scientific values. People in the world including governments do not know what the coin is... Edited to say, as a response to Hommer, as I saw his post after posting my this post... Greeks knew some mathematics, but, not the mathematics of coin and no need to blame them, even today, in space age, we know how to send satellites to the space, using some advanced mathematics, but, still, we do not know coin mathematics... If we (world) knew, millions of different coins in last century/millenium wouldn't have come and gone, to the garbage. Coin collectors should be appreciated/awarded by world governments, they have union, UN.. Somethings wrong, isn't it. Maybe, I misunderstood Hommer's last words. My word, coins were before mathematics, was to state/indicate a reality because of no any numeral on old coins. Perhaps, it was because of "royals" who ordered the mints without any numeral/count on the coins, but, with their own royal powers only. Mathematics and coins, among ordinary folks, were hand to hand.[/QUOTE]
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