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<p>[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2799424, member: 88736"]Thanks for answers, I am learning, learning also terms used in this collecting coin field. What is really meant by commemorative, circulated, uncirculated, etc is a little mind confusing for me as a novice at this stage. For ex, when a coin is circulated widely in space,i.e. geographically, but, circulated in a short period of time, and not in micro scale, i.e. very locally, it is still called circulated coin? As a similarity, it is like saying "cars are everywhere in the world now, so, it is circulated.. actually, not true, cars are not circulated as not everybody has a car, while everybody has a "real" circulating coin.. Anyway, such things (commemorative, circulation, etc) are probably debated things in this collecting field too, that we can discuss later. So, a pause here and let me turn the talk to questioning example coins (sovereign coin, etc) that you gave here. </p><p><br /></p><p>I just looked at their pictures of Sovereign coin, German pfenning and Maria Theresa coin, etc on the net. They all have dates (such as 1817, 1925, 1741, 1752, etc), so, they had known to write the numerals/figures in those dates. But, my questioning will not be about their that contradiction as questioning the dates doesn't fit my purpose of being here. Instead, I'm questioning now this: </p><p><br /></p><p>For ex, during the era GeorgeIII, 1817, there was Sovereign and it is said (by sakata) that it was widely circulated.. But, at the same time, in 1817, I see that there was penny with written face value, "one penny" and also pence as "six pence" written on it, etc. Since these penny, pence, shilling, are coins "mathematically related" to each others as well as to one pound which is "invisible value" of Sovereign coin, then, any person with a logic must ask that, WHY "one pound" or "1 pound" was not written on the Sovereign while the other coins had face values on them? To confuse their minds of ordinary folks? No, it can't be. Then, I can think of another reason why they didn't write the face value on those coins and it is that, those kings/queens/etc had seen themselves above the money... </p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway. I need to add another criteria here to my original question. Lets exclude last 1000 years, perhaps, more as this is near past period in that in circulated coins, there have always been numeral figures/words indicating face value on "real" circulating coins. So, my original question goes to ancient coin collectors rather than near past coin collectors. So, I am rewriting my original question: </p><p><br /></p><p>Has anyone seen any "ancient" coin with NO numerals/figures/words indicating their face values? </p><p><br /></p><p>Regards,</p><p>Erol[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ErolGarip, post: 2799424, member: 88736"]Thanks for answers, I am learning, learning also terms used in this collecting coin field. What is really meant by commemorative, circulated, uncirculated, etc is a little mind confusing for me as a novice at this stage. For ex, when a coin is circulated widely in space,i.e. geographically, but, circulated in a short period of time, and not in micro scale, i.e. very locally, it is still called circulated coin? As a similarity, it is like saying "cars are everywhere in the world now, so, it is circulated.. actually, not true, cars are not circulated as not everybody has a car, while everybody has a "real" circulating coin.. Anyway, such things (commemorative, circulation, etc) are probably debated things in this collecting field too, that we can discuss later. So, a pause here and let me turn the talk to questioning example coins (sovereign coin, etc) that you gave here. I just looked at their pictures of Sovereign coin, German pfenning and Maria Theresa coin, etc on the net. They all have dates (such as 1817, 1925, 1741, 1752, etc), so, they had known to write the numerals/figures in those dates. But, my questioning will not be about their that contradiction as questioning the dates doesn't fit my purpose of being here. Instead, I'm questioning now this: For ex, during the era GeorgeIII, 1817, there was Sovereign and it is said (by sakata) that it was widely circulated.. But, at the same time, in 1817, I see that there was penny with written face value, "one penny" and also pence as "six pence" written on it, etc. Since these penny, pence, shilling, are coins "mathematically related" to each others as well as to one pound which is "invisible value" of Sovereign coin, then, any person with a logic must ask that, WHY "one pound" or "1 pound" was not written on the Sovereign while the other coins had face values on them? To confuse their minds of ordinary folks? No, it can't be. Then, I can think of another reason why they didn't write the face value on those coins and it is that, those kings/queens/etc had seen themselves above the money... Anyway. I need to add another criteria here to my original question. Lets exclude last 1000 years, perhaps, more as this is near past period in that in circulated coins, there have always been numeral figures/words indicating face value on "real" circulating coins. So, my original question goes to ancient coin collectors rather than near past coin collectors. So, I am rewriting my original question: Has anyone seen any "ancient" coin with NO numerals/figures/words indicating their face values? Regards, Erol[/QUOTE]
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