Coin Trek: The Final Frontier

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  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Two very interesting specimens and probably the least understood of coins of antiquity. Mitchiner in his 1979 publication Oriental Coins and Their Values Non Islamic States and Western Colonies AD 600-1979 describes these as coins of the Khmer Empire of Angkor. Little, if any research has been done on these coins since that time, most likely due to the challenges of archaeological exploration of the region in the modern era.

    This is literally the final frontier of numismatics. As stated before current scholarship is non existent on these. Some believe they are tokens or gambling pieces. Although Mitchiner makes the case that they fill the internal currency void that existed in the region after the fall of the Pyu city states in the opening years of the 9th century AD. The silver coinage which had flourished for centuries fell out of use with the demise of Funan and Pyu and the vast maritime economy came to an abrupt end. Thus replaced by a local circulation of these cast lead coins.

    There is virtually no historical record for the use of coinage at Angkor until the mid 16th century, and later with the arrival of Europeans in the 17th and 18th centuries.
    Angkor Map.jpg

    (thanks Wikipedia for the map)

    Here I present two of the specimens.

    Top Coin:

    Cambodia, Angkor
    Anonymous Civic Coinage
    Pb Circular 5 Units (AD 802-1431)
    36 mm x 17.31 grams
    Obverse: Floral Lotus Pattern repeated 4 times around central hole
    Reverse: Floral Lotus Pattern repeated 4 times around central hole
    Ref: MNISWC (1979) 2654 (pictured), smaller uncatalogued denomination.

    Bottom Coin:
    Cambodia, Angkor
    Anonymous Civic Coinage
    Pb 5-Lobed 6 Units (AD 802-1431)
    37 mm x 23.06 grams
    Obverse: Floral Lotus Pattern repeated 5 times around central hole.
    Reverse: Floral Lotus Pattern repeated 5 times around central hole.
    Ref: MNISWC (1979) 2654 (5 lobed denomination)
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    Last edited: Apr 27, 2017
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  3. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i just watched a docu. about historical changes in weather and it showed the ruins of Angkor and told of how that great city of over a million at one time came to a end when the monsoons didn't come for a period of time.
     
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  4. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Noob, I'm not interested in the coins, but I loved the thread-title so I gave you a like!

    I hope things are good, coin-bro

    Cheers to the Noobs!


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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Never seen them before, but neat additions, AN.
     
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  6. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Very nice. I have never seen this type except in pictures! There are a few other specimens in Zeno.ru's SOUTHEAST ASIA » Native coins » Cambodia category.
     
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  7. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Weird synchronicity: Just a couple of days ago I was thinking about the Khmer coinage, and now you posted here about it! I own a small round 1-unit and a five-lobed type. unfortunately don't have any photos handy and the coins are in the bank safety deposit box right now. Anyway, thanks for posting these!
     
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  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    fascinating.jpg

    Actually it is very interesting.
     
  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Great post. Havent heard of these either
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    These are both cool. I like the 5-lobed coins for their design. PB? I would definitely carry those around in my mouth just like the Ancient Greeks purported to do with the tiny tetartemorions, etc... Yeah, I know these are large, but the flavor... :D
     
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  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I was able to locate two additional specimens from Angkor c. 802 - 1431 AD. This time a larger 10 Units (?) 40 mm x 30.32 grams and a smaller 5 lobed 6 Units (?) 29 mm x 19.90 grams.
    AngkorSL.jpg
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I love those Lobed coins...

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    upload_2017-5-13_9-36-33.png Those LOBES!
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    Ancientnoob Money Changer

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    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

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  15. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Man - I would love that for my collection!!!
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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