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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 444897, member: 13650"]Accuracy. Think about this word that you just used. I don't think anybody on this forum will ever deny you the fact that the TPGs are not and probably never will be able to claim 100% accuracy at assigning any grade. Since they can't, what percentage would be adequate for you? </p><p><br /></p><p> Now think about this. The mere mention you make of how accurate are they at grading PF70s, is claiming that in your opinion PF70s exist! This contradicts your argument that they do not.</p><p><br /></p><p> Their accuracy may be 50,60,70, 80%. No way to know without, as you say, extensively testing the theory. I'm not arguing there can be error!</p><p><br /></p><p> But I don't need to test it. I'm going to guess that they can be accurate 80% (maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's only 60%) of the time and if I choose to buy a PF70 for not much more over a 69, I'm willing to take my chances that I'm more than likely getting a superior coin over what would typically be considered a 69.</p><p><br /></p><p> After all these years, why aren't umpires tested by computers over calling balls and strikes in MLB? Seems like an important aspect to know. How accurately and consistantly does an ump call a game? But they don't! And nobody complains. In fact it's worse! Some have large strike zones and some have smaller strike zones, and the teams know who they are! There isn't even a standard to go by. You can't. Players are different heights. The ball comes in at different speeds and countless different angles. Some pitches are a given and many others are judgment calls that everybody has to live with. At 90 to 100 mph, there isn't time to sit there and analyze it like you can sit and grade a coin under magnification for as long as you want. Not to mention, this is ONE person making the calls. Not 4 different people having to agree on it. </p><p><br /></p><p> If you think 70 grade coins are a huge rip off and can't trust multiple professional's judgment calls, it is dually noted. Don't buy them. </p><p><br /></p><p> In addition, I'm not here to advocate buying PF70 ASE's. I think it's crazy for how nice they all actually are, to pay 3-4x for a bullion coin, but I just wanted one for comparison. That 08 is the first and likely the last I would buy. That being said, I'm not doubting, for how nice these are, that many, many PF70s exist.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 444897, member: 13650"]Accuracy. Think about this word that you just used. I don't think anybody on this forum will ever deny you the fact that the TPGs are not and probably never will be able to claim 100% accuracy at assigning any grade. Since they can't, what percentage would be adequate for you? Now think about this. The mere mention you make of how accurate are they at grading PF70s, is claiming that in your opinion PF70s exist! This contradicts your argument that they do not. Their accuracy may be 50,60,70, 80%. No way to know without, as you say, extensively testing the theory. I'm not arguing there can be error! But I don't need to test it. I'm going to guess that they can be accurate 80% (maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's only 60%) of the time and if I choose to buy a PF70 for not much more over a 69, I'm willing to take my chances that I'm more than likely getting a superior coin over what would typically be considered a 69. After all these years, why aren't umpires tested by computers over calling balls and strikes in MLB? Seems like an important aspect to know. How accurately and consistantly does an ump call a game? But they don't! And nobody complains. In fact it's worse! Some have large strike zones and some have smaller strike zones, and the teams know who they are! There isn't even a standard to go by. You can't. Players are different heights. The ball comes in at different speeds and countless different angles. Some pitches are a given and many others are judgment calls that everybody has to live with. At 90 to 100 mph, there isn't time to sit there and analyze it like you can sit and grade a coin under magnification for as long as you want. Not to mention, this is ONE person making the calls. Not 4 different people having to agree on it. If you think 70 grade coins are a huge rip off and can't trust multiple professional's judgment calls, it is dually noted. Don't buy them. In addition, I'm not here to advocate buying PF70 ASE's. I think it's crazy for how nice they all actually are, to pay 3-4x for a bullion coin, but I just wanted one for comparison. That 08 is the first and likely the last I would buy. That being said, I'm not doubting, for how nice these are, that many, many PF70s exist.[/QUOTE]
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