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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 444800, member: 15309"]Now that is an outright lie. The only reason this thread was started was so that Ruben could attempt to prove that his position that he stated in the other thread "<font size="3">Clearly Some people have too much money and not enough brains" <font size="2">was right. He accused me of twisting his words and of trolling. So he blocked my posts and started this thread in a desperate attempt to prove his point. Not only has he not proven his point, he is lying about his motives and resorted to calling the rest of children because we can't possibly understand the workings of his genius mind.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2">Give us a break already Ruben. You are wrong, everyone knows you are wrong, and if you really want proof, then put you money where your mouth is. Ante up and bet. Nobody in there right mind is going to crack out a coin in a 70 holder. It is a lose lose proposition. You still have to pay the submission fee and you can't possibly upgrade. The only way to do it is to bet on the results. You stated earlier that you think that only 10% of all 70's would grade 70 upon resubmission. I will give you 50% just to be fair. We will get an independent 3rd party to purchase 5 different MS70 ASE's crack them out and resubmit them. The wager will be for double the total cost of the coins and the submission fees. If 3 drop in grade you win, if two drop in grade I win. The winner gets the money and then must pay the independent 3rd party the cost of the original coins plus 2x the submission fees for the time and effort. The winner is then left with the full cost of the coins plus the actual coins whatever the grade may be. If the 3rd party wants collatarel, that can be arranged as well.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2">If you want a higher percentage than 50% then you must either admit that you don't have an e-mail from any grader at NGC or PCGS stating that they assign the 70 grade arbitrarily. If you admit that then I will say that 4 of the 5 will come back as MS70.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2">Put you money where your mouth is Ruben. I am tired of your smack talk and all of your ridiculous statements. Please remember, I make $1,000 bets everyday at the poker table, this proposed bet is serious.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2">Now either put up or shut up!</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"><br /></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2">Somebody quote this so he can see it.</font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="2"></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 444800, member: 15309"]Now that is an outright lie. The only reason this thread was started was so that Ruben could attempt to prove that his position that he stated in the other thread "[SIZE=3]Clearly Some people have too much money and not enough brains" [SIZE=2]was right. He accused me of twisting his words and of trolling. So he blocked my posts and started this thread in a desperate attempt to prove his point. Not only has he not proven his point, he is lying about his motives and resorted to calling the rest of children because we can't possibly understand the workings of his genius mind. Give us a break already Ruben. You are wrong, everyone knows you are wrong, and if you really want proof, then put you money where your mouth is. Ante up and bet. Nobody in there right mind is going to crack out a coin in a 70 holder. It is a lose lose proposition. You still have to pay the submission fee and you can't possibly upgrade. The only way to do it is to bet on the results. You stated earlier that you think that only 10% of all 70's would grade 70 upon resubmission. I will give you 50% just to be fair. We will get an independent 3rd party to purchase 5 different MS70 ASE's crack them out and resubmit them. The wager will be for double the total cost of the coins and the submission fees. If 3 drop in grade you win, if two drop in grade I win. The winner gets the money and then must pay the independent 3rd party the cost of the original coins plus 2x the submission fees for the time and effort. The winner is then left with the full cost of the coins plus the actual coins whatever the grade may be. If the 3rd party wants collatarel, that can be arranged as well. If you want a higher percentage than 50% then you must either admit that you don't have an e-mail from any grader at NGC or PCGS stating that they assign the 70 grade arbitrarily. If you admit that then I will say that 4 of the 5 will come back as MS70. Put you money where your mouth is Ruben. I am tired of your smack talk and all of your ridiculous statements. Please remember, I make $1,000 bets everyday at the poker table, this proposed bet is serious. Now either put up or shut up! Somebody quote this so he can see it. [/SIZE][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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