Coin storage?

I believe the examples of reverse wear were from dealer cabinets downtown in large cities where subway tunnels shook the buildings pretty much constantly. I have not noticed the problem but my coins are not proofs and my foundations rarely vibrate. If I lived in London in an older wood frame building over a tube, I might be more concerned.

 

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LOL, @DonnaML , you will find that Moderns collectors will enrich us with their expertise, claiming that Modern collecting ways are the ONLY way to collect. They usually do a drive-by-shooting of one post each, not paying attention that they are in the Ancients section. They have been so brainwashed to Modern US Coin Collecting, sanitized, marketing induced, slabbed, commodity, "How Much is it?", and "What is its Grade?" mentality versus truly enjoying a Hobby.

Here are a few more for @STU

Welcome to Ancients, and yes, virtually ALL Ancients Collectors HANDLE their coins WITHOUT gloves. Yes we clean our hands.

BTW, these are the SELLER's pics!!!


RI Valentinian II AD 375-392 AR Siliqua 18mm 1.8g Trier Victory wreath palm RIC IX 43



RI Laelianus CE 269 AE Ant 19mm 3.4g Moguntiacum mint Radiate cuirassed Victory RIC Vb 9 p373



IONIA Teos AR tetartemorion 0.2g 6mm Hd griffin R mouth open - Quadripartite incuse SNG Turkey 602



RR P Calpurnius AR Den 20mm 3.9g Rome 133 BCE Roma star behind - Venis biga crowned victory Cr 247-1

 

Can you imagine owning a coin you couldn't handle? Could never touch?
Just looking through a plastic window? Not me... that is not my hobby at all. Touching only the edges? Ha!!
Nope - my coins have been through a lot over the centuries - that is the least of my worries. They have a good home.

Binders and flips? For their space saving value and organization- totally makes sense. I love looking through other peoples binders and flips.

But my coins are either in a tray or strewn across my desk and on the weekends all across my home bar.

 

I've decided to place mine in trays, but am looking for some paper to write the ID on. I don't have anything acid free, does anyone know if regular card/cardboard will work? I.e. cereal box material?

 

Was that ever confirmed or is it an urban myth? How long would it take for a metal coin resting on felt to wear just because trains pass nearby? We have to protect our coins from lots of things, if we now have to worry about vibrations that will be the icing on the cake. I don't have trains to worry about, but the washing machine in the kitchen next room makes the display cabinet rattle every time it is on spin. Good luck telling my missus that we need to stop washing our clothes!

 

I bought an artist's sketchbook, acid free. I bought a paper punch to give me labels that fit my trays. I write on the labels with a graphite pencil. Cost peanuts from Amazon.

 

That's a good idea, I never thought of that. I actually have some old art supplies somewhere and am sure I have various types of paper in there, should have thought of that - cheers!

 

If you use the SEARCH function (upper right on the page), you will find many different storage and display methods. Here is mine. Nothing is fool proof, nothing is perfect, and it depends upon YOUR needs!

I like trays a lot, however, I do not trust myself. So, I figgerred out a method of AcidFree (yeah, I manufactured for the "Memories / Scrapbooking" Markets for years), and to ensure desiccants were incorporated into the storage / display.

I HAVE SHOWN THIS IN PAST THREADS...

I use 2x4 open Saflips in Albums so that I have the attributes for each side as I view the coin. 6 Saflips per page. Provenance captured in Saflip and/or customs and other provenance papers captured in a folder.

Album: Desiccant Pages in front and back; 6 slot open Saflips as 2 x 4; Attributes on front and back in top pocket of Saflip; can flip page to see obv and rev. and attributes on both side for each coin; Each album page separated by 100 lb archival card stock.; Album slides into Archival safe Album Cover. Perfect for my Home Safes as well as my Bank Safe. Easy to view, present, store.

Card stock gives a background, as well as "padding" between the album pages.

Desiccant pages in books, desiccant packets in Safes.

Easy-access active Glocks, Rugers, S&W's program in place.









However the BEST STORAGE, EVER, is how I store all my loose world coins that I have collected over the years from my business travels:



THIS is the BEST way to store them. When the Grandkids come over, I just POUR them out on the floor. We talk about the coins, where they were from. They get to play with them, and keep a few! There are at least 35 country's worth of coins in there that I have traveled. Big fun for me to reminisce and fun for the Grandkids to ask questions!

 

Agreed.

I use Abafil trays for most of my coins. Few have mint state luster but for those that do, I use Kointains inert capsules for extra protection. These capsules can easily be removed and replaced for closer examination without reflection:

 

Speaking of storage, I kind of like the old fashioned round paper tickets that some ancient coin dealers still use to store descriptions in trays, but I can't find these. Does anyone know where they can be purchased?

 

I have seen some, I think I bought some, but see my post above, just buy the punch size you want.

Edited to add: I am dialling back on the meds, hopefully the shakes will stop!

 

Did you happen to notice that this is the Ancients sub-forum you're posting in? Your comment is utterly inappropriate and, frankly, wrong in the context of ancient coins. They've survived being buried 2000 years, give or take a few hundred. I guarantee you they'll survive being touched. Your inane comment can only spoil the enjoyment of new collectors by making them needlessly paranoid about damaging their collection.

Phil Davis

 

It doesn't apply at all of course, as I know you know. What's annoying is that these modern collectors who stumble in here pretty much never say oops, sorry, after they arrogantly give advice that's misleading at best, flatly wrong at worst.

 

LOL , PHIL, I am a LONG time collector ALSO. And MANY on the ANCIENTS Forum are LONG time collectors too. We all handle our ANCIENTS coins with confidence. These coins have lasted for upwards of 2600 years without “Modern Coin” collectors’ help. We have done fine. However, the paranoia that Modern Coin collectors handling of modern coins is why I stopped collecting moderns 30 years ago...

Personally, I am confident that the new Ancients collectors will do well in the Ancients threads, without the wrong advice given by the Modern collector bombers to our Forum.

 

Yeah, but you've got to look out for those stampedes of reindeer and caribou!
~ Chris

 

I can remember a number of years ago when a modern coin collector was bragging to me that he had a 1953 proof set in its original , unopened envelope. He was trying to convince me it was more valuable since it was never taken out of the original package. I asked him if he then never actually saw the coins. He confirmed that he never did see them , because this would cause the value of an unopened envelope to decrease. I could never understand that logic ; one would do better just collecting envelopes. Most of the "thrill" comes from handling them.

 

Big chuckle, and very much agreed. What is actually beyond ironic is that COINS are INTENDED to be a mode of payment / transaction / transfer of wealth from one human HAND to another human HAND... Ummmm.... Modern Coin "collectors" have COMPLETELY missed that. I understand caring for your collectibles... but, living a hobby where everything you have is sanitized is nuts.

But, that is only my 2 Unciae worth...

BTW, I saw this cool Tree Frog today... it camouflaged itself to the cream cover material... SO cool...



Reminded me of my FROG UNCIA


LUCERIA, Italia
Anonymous, ca. 217-212 BCE,
AE uncia (7.36g).
Obv: Frog viewed from above
Rev: corn-ear, pellet left & retrograde letter L left,
Ref: T&V-285.
Comments: crudely cast as always,
Rare

 

This reminds me of the people I remember reading about who collect unopened boxes of old baseball cards, without ever knowing what they contain. Apparently, if the boxes are ever opened, it destroys their market value!

To me, from an aesthetic viewpoint (wholly apart from the investment motives), slabbing coins is almost as pernicious. Once a coin is slabbed, in my opinion, it's no longer an actual coin. It's become a commodity. Like pork belly futures. Frankly, there might as well be a hologram inside the slab instead of a coin. Because all you're really seeing when you look at a slab is the image of a coin, mediated through plastic -- not terribly well, I think -- rather than the coin itself, which was intended to be seen directly, and to be experienced through the sense of touch as well as sight.

I expect that one of these days people will be slabbing rare first editions of books, making them impossible to read. (I've already seen that done with old magazines.) Or valuable paintings -- should all the Vermeers and Van Goghs and Rembrandts be graded by TPG's and encased in plastic slabs? Anyone who's ever been in a museum knows the vast difference between the experience of seeing a painting with and without glass in the frame -- the latter is incomparably superior, given that it allows the viewer to see the texture of the paint in all its three-dimensionality, an effect that's nearly destroyed when it's behind glass. Plastic is far worse than glass in detracting from the viewer's experience. Never mind that slabbing makes it physically impossible to display coins together in an appealing manner, as I have tried to do with my collection in its trays, as shown in some of the photos I've posted here.

Rant over -- I just get tired of the obnoxiousness of those who look down on ancient coin collectors who refuse to slab their coins. Even if I do understand the reasons why some do it.

 

See https://www.avery.com/blank/shape/round-labels.

As you can see, they come in a wide variety of diameters. Obviously they're sticky on the back when you peel them off the sheet, but all you have to do is stick two of them together, and then you have a two-sided round label that you can write on. Or you can wait to peel them off until you type the information onto the template on your computer, and print out the sheet. Either way, it's a lot less time-consuming than using a punch, in my opinion!

 

Donna, you are among kindred spirits here.

BTW, I love the 'pork belly futures' analogy!