Coin Storage ?

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  1. heuvy31

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  3. Prime Mover

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    Oooh... I think I like... a lot.

    Any idea if these pages will fit BCW-brand plastic 2x2's? ( http://www.bcwsupplies.com/products/coin-snaps/ ). I have a few hundred of the BCW brand ones, but I haven't filled them all up yet so if I need to I could switch now. The BCW binder pages seem to only fit 9 if these per page, while it looks like you can get 20 of them per page with the quadrum.
     
  4. someconcerns

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    Back in the day, when I was actively collecting large cents in the 1970's and early 80's, most of the older collectors used 1.75 by 1.75 inch cotton envelopes inside 2x2 paper envelopes for storage of mint state cents and half cents. I remember Jules Reiver always hummed when he got out his gloves to handle them and his camel-hair brush to burnish them a bit. I did put most of my MS pieces in cotton, but never really got into the brushing part.

    On the coin snaps and holder issue, the coin snaps specs show a box holds 100 stapled cardboard 2x2s but only 30 coin snaps. Where does one draw the line for which coins go in a plastic holder (and does Whitman still make those?)? If you are putting your best 5000 or so coins in a bank deposit box, the space adds up. Is there some heavy-duty cardboard and mylar (they still use mylar?) 2x2 you guys would use for cheaper coins, even if they are mint state or proof?

    I apologize for not being aware of what is current state-of-the-art, as I've been out of this for years.
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Is that a thousand, I could have sworn it was just a few hundred...oh, I haven't been here that long...never mind.
     
  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Any well made 2X2 will protect your coins if you use them right and check them often enough , just make sure the staple edges are flat or into the cardboard . Still for any MS or proof coin that is worth more than bullion the hard plastic holders are the only way to go . I once had a beautiful Barber dime that I bought in a 2X2 and left it in there . It was at least a 63 and more than likely a 65 . Well it was in my safety deposit box for a few years . I asked my wife to get all the coins out so I could catalog them . She grabbed them and threw them into a large clothe bag . When I got to the Dime I noticed the plastic was ripped . Seems a staple that was sticking up put a nice scratch thru her cheek while bouncing around in the bag , granted my wife wasn't a collector and figured they were all safe in there little holders so she kind of tossed the bag down on the chair and probably the car seat . I still have that dime as it has toned some beautiful colors , and I love everything about it but that big ole scratch that wouldn't be there if I used a hard plastic holder .
     
  7. someconcerns

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    Point taken. I figure the cotton envelopes will protect a surface and wick away any humidity in the box, together with moisture absorbent. But if I want to look at a really nice coin more often, maybe I will invest in some plastic holders.

    You indicated you use intercept shield and cointains (and flips for lower grades). Who makes intercept shield and do you have a link?
     
  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

  9. someconcerns

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    Thank you. Will check them out.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It doesn't work that way, in fact it works exactly the opposite way. Yes the paper will absorb some of whatever moisture is there, but it will hold that moisture right next to and touching the coin, which is exactly what you do not want to happen.
     
  11. someconcerns

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    GDJMSP,

    Perhaps I could have stated it better and I agree simply putting a MS coin in paper is not a great idea. When I said cotton envelopes I misspoke. They are slightly fluffy cotton-lined paper sleeves which slide into a 2x2 envelope.

    Although corrosion is a scourge we all must confront with coins, I suspect we all have somewhat different experiences with storage, depending on the temperature and humidity conditions we can maintain. Thus far, and I've only had them the last 30 years, I've experienced no problems with the MS large and half cents I've stored in cotton-lined sleeves. A few of the coins, some with pedigrees traceable to the early decades of the 20th century, actually had such sleeves in use when I acquired them. Obviously, I don't know when the coins were put into them.

    The Indian proof restrikes I have, which were placed by the Bombay mint in tissue paper and then in paper envelopes did not all fare as well as my large cents, but many of their issues I would attribute to uneven application of lacquer at the mint and very high humidity. And who knows how they were stored before I acquired them.

    Steve
     
  12. someconcerns

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    RZAGE,

    I actually ran into a few intercept shield holders at lower prices than wizard carries them. Very limited sizes. Check out:
    https://tradewindssupplies.storesecured.com/items/Intercept-Shield/list.htm

    Steve
     
  13. bullionkid

    bullionkid New Member

    Put coins in a soft cloth and store in a place where children cannot reach.
     
  14. someconcerns

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    AND where your mother-in-law is not going to look for rags! LOL.

    Heard a story this morning from one of my walking buddies. A guy decided to hold a yard sale and clean out the house somewhat before the new mom came home from the hospital with new baby. He sold a bunch of junk containers in the garage to random people, including, as it turned out, the container in which his wife hid her engagement ring. Probably apocryphal, but your suggestion reminded me of the story.

    Steve
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Steve -

    Those are just as bad if not worse than plain paper envelopes. The cotton liners will hairline the coins. Now this may be less of a concern with circulated coins than with MS or Proof coins, but more hairlines with do nothing but help lower the grade even on circ coins. And if the movement of the coins happens often enough inside those cotton sleeves it may even result in the coins having a somewhat polished appearance, turning a problem free coin into a problem coin.

    I will add this Steve. Your experiences and storage habits are no different than a great many others who began collecting decades ago. And when they started they used methods that were current and acceptable at the time. And then they continued to use those methods even until today in some cases, kinda like you.

    I myself started collecting in 1960 so I am quite familiar with what you are describing. But over the years many things have changed and we have a learned from our past mistakes. With many of those mistakes having to do with improper storage. It's just like it is with anything else in life. At one point in time there were many things that we thought were the right way to go, the right thing to do. But years later, sometimes decades later, we learned that what we thought was right, was not right at all.
     
  16. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Listen to Doug!
     
  17. someconcerns

    someconcerns Member

    I have ordered a number of the intercept shield holders and will try them out.
     
  18. bullionkid

    bullionkid New Member

    Dear Steve,
    I am not here for such stories, i only want to increase knowledge by participating in threads.
     
  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    So chill out and participate.
     
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