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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 16562822, member: 105098"]I'd just say that you know what he paid for it, ask if you can see it after the deal is done. and make an offer.</p><p><br /></p><p>profit margin in most numismatic transactions is between 10-20% as a seller you lose 10-20%, as a dealer they gain 10-20% when they sell it. Really don't want to go below the 10% and above 20% kind of leads to haggling or hurt feelings. Some like to play the haggle game, and mark up to 30-35% and let you talk them down some and set it that high so either you'll pay it, or it will look like a great deal when they give you 10% off. </p><p><br /></p><p>Rule of Thumb markup for a reseller is to start at 30% markup and then if necessary "find wiggle room" down to 25% or 20% to make the deal. Sometimes you gotta go lower, but it give you room to make a buck or two doing that.</p><p><br /></p><p>in this scenario, and him paying $5.00 for it, there is no reason that $7.15 isn't more than reasonable for it, and that $6.50 is fair. Offering $10 would be more than fair and they should take the quick profit without carrying cost, unless he ripped that dude off in which case he won't sell it like that.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would think that he got a good look at it before making the offer, and besides a nice display, it's all common date coins that are either problem coins, or nice and really common.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've seen sets like that, the box is worth more than whats in it, and the box, I know people sell the short sets in fancy boxes for like $150, I know some places will do even fancier boxes and add stamps, and charge $40 each for 15 shipments of 2 coins and 1 stamp (total scam preying on the unknowing).</p><p>You might find a short set on ebay for like $50 or $60, but that's convenience. The dealer is going to break the set and sell them as singles most likely. Might have an eye for one coin he can make his $5 back on and then the rest is gravy sitting in the bargain bin or sold as a roll of mixed date commons or whatever.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is carrying cost and stale inventory that takes up space that doesn't turn back into money is just a burden really, money on the shelf, but it's got to get sold at some point.</p><p>Unless he ripped the dude off though, $10 offered should be an easy flip to double his money immediately. If he did rip the guy off you'd know it when he refuses.</p><p>double what he paid for it should work for most dealers to not have to hold something in inventory at all.</p><p><br /></p><p>To a dealer this should not be offensive, he made his deal without interference, and you make your deal and hopefully everyone is happy in the end, but it shouldn't cause you to get banned from the shop doing it like that. worst case, you find out he ripped the guy off and won't sell it for less than $60.</p><p><br /></p><p>it just tells you not to sell at that shop is all it does. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 16562822, member: 105098"]I'd just say that you know what he paid for it, ask if you can see it after the deal is done. and make an offer. profit margin in most numismatic transactions is between 10-20% as a seller you lose 10-20%, as a dealer they gain 10-20% when they sell it. Really don't want to go below the 10% and above 20% kind of leads to haggling or hurt feelings. Some like to play the haggle game, and mark up to 30-35% and let you talk them down some and set it that high so either you'll pay it, or it will look like a great deal when they give you 10% off. Rule of Thumb markup for a reseller is to start at 30% markup and then if necessary "find wiggle room" down to 25% or 20% to make the deal. Sometimes you gotta go lower, but it give you room to make a buck or two doing that. in this scenario, and him paying $5.00 for it, there is no reason that $7.15 isn't more than reasonable for it, and that $6.50 is fair. Offering $10 would be more than fair and they should take the quick profit without carrying cost, unless he ripped that dude off in which case he won't sell it like that. I would think that he got a good look at it before making the offer, and besides a nice display, it's all common date coins that are either problem coins, or nice and really common. I've seen sets like that, the box is worth more than whats in it, and the box, I know people sell the short sets in fancy boxes for like $150, I know some places will do even fancier boxes and add stamps, and charge $40 each for 15 shipments of 2 coins and 1 stamp (total scam preying on the unknowing). You might find a short set on ebay for like $50 or $60, but that's convenience. The dealer is going to break the set and sell them as singles most likely. Might have an eye for one coin he can make his $5 back on and then the rest is gravy sitting in the bargain bin or sold as a roll of mixed date commons or whatever. There is carrying cost and stale inventory that takes up space that doesn't turn back into money is just a burden really, money on the shelf, but it's got to get sold at some point. Unless he ripped the dude off though, $10 offered should be an easy flip to double his money immediately. If he did rip the guy off you'd know it when he refuses. double what he paid for it should work for most dealers to not have to hold something in inventory at all. To a dealer this should not be offensive, he made his deal without interference, and you make your deal and hopefully everyone is happy in the end, but it shouldn't cause you to get banned from the shop doing it like that. worst case, you find out he ripped the guy off and won't sell it for less than $60. it just tells you not to sell at that shop is all it does. :)[/QUOTE]
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