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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;kaosleeroy108, post: 1175666, member: 18877&quot;]<b>a word on safes</b></p><p><br /></p><p>listen most reasonable&nbsp; priced safes that are&nbsp; new or used weight in excess of 650-1800lbs..++++ the average person with or without equipment will have a hard time breaking into any safe.. or carrying it away more or less the average people that own a home have a security system&nbsp; and a redundant system .. if your smart.. .. i have a good safe its lasted me several years .. its was so hard to get it in.. i am getting a second one later in the month..&nbsp; if you want&nbsp; a good safe buy it from sentry or remmington or guardian any company with good retort .. the whole thing is location and surroundings.. ...why i say this is the following ..</p><p><br /></p><p>1 the thing you need to break the average safe??</p><p><br /></p><p>large / small crow pry bar,&nbsp; cutting torch / blasting capp or gel, sledge mallet or hammer and key thing space. and noise.</p><p><br /></p><p>combination hacking...</p><p><br /></p><p>space the average theif needs to move the box arount to get into it.(pry /crow).. and if you live in a average house&nbsp; the safe is put under a load bearing beam or such as a heavy wall&nbsp; it has to have support casing ie a slabb under it to dispurse its load .. so your average person aint breaking into your cribb and running off with any safe...&nbsp; and even if they did get in to the house&nbsp; with full loaded it would weight 600+++++ whatever you added in it..sledge hammer with all that noise .. attract attention why dont you</p><p><br /></p><p>now a cutting torch, now the average skilled person ie the guy walking the street has no clue how to use a torch... but a skilled person that does&nbsp; has to be register or took some training.. thus creating a traceable link.... the safe you buy should have a high heat or fire rating and ,maximum&nbsp; security rating 1 hr 2 hr 3 hr.. i know most new modern tech safe have anti cutting an blast counter measures.... blasting cap now this is my fave toy but where the **** your going to get the recipe for gel.. so highly unstable it isn&#039;t funny... so forget it.. or require major skill and&nbsp; and training so the average thief on the street aint getting dynamite or such to make that loud ass noise and bigg ass boom.... but he will be able to maybe learn some safe picking techniques to figure out your combonation or pick your key lock.. thats why multi locks and combos exsist... and digital locks exisit all with there draw backs... and gifts..</p><p><br /></p><p>i own a single combination&nbsp; 6active pin safe that weights about 850+++ and took 8 people a truck and chain crank to get it in the house.. and it has a load plate and a 1 hour security rating and 5 hour..</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>the average modern safe should have something like this or better...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>i hope this helps </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;most safes you buy at a store like staples walmart or such are crapp.. remember even the &quot;good&quot; company&#039;s make a junk brand.. to push the sense of security..</p><p>donts of having a safe</p><p>i say dont cause this is crap ya dont do</p><p><br /></p><p>1 say crap.. about your safe.. ie take pics show off your crap..</p><p>2 put your safe in view of a window or in view of the public..</p><p>3 write your combination down near your safe.. or keep it where anyone can find it..</p><p>4 what ever else i didnt mention</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><br /></p><p>shock plate the average highgrade modern jewelers or gun safe .. which is by far the best ones to look into , will have a shock plate or break plate.. this is a secondary system that if some one trys to use a sledge or blasting&nbsp; gel or dynamite or such on it ... it will tripp the secnday locking system that deadlocks the door so even if you know the combo and&nbsp; a key you will need to call a locksmith to pop it..[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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