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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 1346875, member: 13650&quot;]No, really it&#039;s not about the floors.&nbsp; It&#039;s about whether you&#039;re willing to give the thief or thieves leverage.&nbsp; On all the youtube videos I&#039;ve watched of guys cracking gun safes, the first thing they do is tip them over so that they can use their weight and gravity to drive the crowbars down at the seams.&nbsp;&nbsp; Even this can take quite a while.&nbsp;&nbsp; Unless the crook works out and is very athletic, it would take a long time and get very tiresome trying to exert the same force while the safe was standing.&nbsp; They may not even be able to do it, depending on the quality of the safe.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; My Liberty has 24, 1.25&quot; bolts, 1/8&quot; steel with additional steel behind the door, anti-pry tabs at the bolts, and ball bearings around the lock to break drill bits.&nbsp; It survived their pry/torture test for an hour and they never got in.&nbsp; &nbsp; That was with it laying down and multiple people trying to break in.&nbsp; It is the smallest size of the second best one they make but it still weighs 730 lbs.&nbsp;&nbsp; These guys make quality safes with great fire protection and security features that I haven&#039;t seen anyone else offer.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I was nieve in my younger days.&nbsp; But the proof is on youtube if you want to see what people can break into and how long it takes.&nbsp; A lot of stuff that seems like good security was never meant to be complete security for every situation.&nbsp; It may stop kids or family members.&nbsp; Maybe even a novice thief on his own.&nbsp; But if you&#039;re unlucky and have 2 or 3 experienced, determined guys with time and tools, trying to bust in, you better have what it takes or good insurance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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