Featured Coin Photography: Lens Commentary using Nikon D7000

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by geekpryde, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. robec

    robec Junior Member

    The photos you have been showing don't appear to be suffering from any sort of vibration.

    I think any problems you think you may have is only in fine tuning focus. It's a shame that the Nikon control software doesn't give you a clearer image to work with. It never fails to surprise me how far off my eyeball focus is when the software is loaded. It's too bad Lightroom doesn't give you a Live view on the computer monitor.
     
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  3. robec

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  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I use a handheld remote trigger---most cameras can be set to use one. I have a Vivitar accessory hand remote.
     
  6. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Some hardware setup photos for those who are curious:

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  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

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  8. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    How heavy is your tripod? With the camera extended horizontally like that, I would think that you're going to be more affected by camera shake from the "mirror slap" and other things like you mentioned (footsteps and so on). If you don't have sandbags, that's okay. Just fill an old milk jug full of water and hang it from the center of your tripod. Easy enough to do, and then use the water to water your plants when you're done taking pictures. :)
     
  9. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    True enough. The tripod itself is beefy, but I am going to add weight to it, probably as dumbbells hanging with rope.
     
  10. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter


    Beyond a certain point, macro lenses are diffraction limited. That is, there is a sweet spot of sharpness beyond which you do not want to stop down your lens any further (i.e., you do not want to make the f-number any larger).

    For most coin macro images, the sweet spot for sharpness is around f-5.6 to f-7 or so -- stopping down beyond f-11 will be blurry compared to a larger aperture (smaller f-number) due to diffraction.

    Mark Goodman has a very nice group of articles on the physics of optics; in particular the short article number 17 at this link is useful to help understand diffraction.
     
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  11. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    You don't seem to be having problems with this, but another common problem people have with coin photographs is that the sensor and the flat surface of the coin are not perfectly parallel, and so one part of the coin may be out of focus, while another part is in focus (due to the very shallow depth of field). I created this little schematic to show how you can use a small mirror to make sure your camera is positioned perfectly above the coin so that the sensor and coin's surface are parallel.

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  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Great thread guys! :peeking:
     
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  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I've got a question for you guys.........I shoot mostly raw stuff so if I were to use a higher F stop # and a slower speed shouldn't I get fabulous depth of field and clarity? Right now I use a 'point and shoot' set to macro with no control over speed or F stops. I hope to upgrade to something like Geekpryde has in the near future.
     
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  14. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Raw coins are a lot easier in my opinion. No glare from the slabs, no scratches on the slabs above the coin faces, and the autofocus should not get confused by the layer of plastic over the coins.

    If you can, take it out of macro mode, and put your point and shoot in "A" aperture-priority mode, or "S" shutter-speed priority mode, or "M" full manual mode, you can set these things and test it out.

    Per my suggestion and also robec, we get better results in the 5.6-8 range, and not the crazy high f stops. This is due to several factors, but most lenses are much sharper in the middle numbers, than say the extremes like f/1.8 or f/22.

    Try f/ 5.6, in aperture priority mode, on a tripod, and let the camera slow down the shutter speed as needed. Make sure auto-iso is OFF.
     
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  15. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

  16. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Lens is going back tomorrow, bummer. I hope to get some pics for MaineBill before it leaves me, he has some killer coins.
     
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  17. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    I agree 100%
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Canon has great mid telephoto lenses with super macro that are very inexpensive, and as good as the specialized macro lens. I know, as I used to have Canon DSLRs and lenses before the switch. The zoom macros do a great job. APC cameras are so easy to use for this purpose, so you have the right equipment. What does not work for this application is the pocket camera, as there is not enough creative control (possible exception--my Leica V Lux 30, that has many manual overrides and great optics).
     
  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Glad you got it dialed in hope you have some fun with the coin porn I left off :) I think everyone here will prefer them to my wretched iPhone pics!!
     
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  20. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Here is a small taste:

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  21. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    A few more MaineBill coins. These are the rejects not going to CAC, LOL. Well, some are already stickered!

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