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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;hontonai, post: 282574, member: 4703&quot;]Well, it turned out to be a scamming seller, a stupid buyer, and a sympathetic judge who went the extra mile by hiring her own expert witness.</p><p><br /></p><p>Seller&#039;s &quot;guaranteed return&quot; only covered the date, denomination and mint - no mention of grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>Buyer &quot;bought with confidence&quot; because of the guaranteed return!</p><p><br /></p><p>The slab&#039;s label was never shown, and the name of the TPG that put an MS65 on a coin that was a 62-63 slider, was never revealed.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think it was an SGS slab for two reasons:&nbsp; (1) The coin wasn&#039;t certified as MS70, and (2) although the slab looked like it might be a Coin World thingie, there didn&#039;t appear to be a gold label.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the real world of government-operated courts, it would have been up to the plaintiff to provide his own expert, and the court wouldn&#039;t have bailed him out by furnishing one at no cost.</p><p><br /></p><p>According to the expert, a former ANA President whose name I didn&#039;t catch, the grey sheet listed MS61 at $875 and MS65 at $26,000, for a 1915 Philly St. Gaudens $20 gold piece.</p><p><br /></p><p>El Stupido (the buyer) paid $2,600.&nbsp; Unfortunately for him, the Small Claims limit in his state of residence is only $2,000, so his education in how to avoid getting scammed was still costly, since he had to give back the whole coin in order to get back part of his money.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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