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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3375965, member: 76863"]The commemorative series seems like its been falling for about 30 years or so aside from stunning toners and the best of the best. Everything else has been a race to the bottom. </p><p><br /></p><p>But yea when you see that list all I think of is what a debacle of a hot mess this grouping is. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would actually blame dealers here not the TPGs. The TPGs and the internet has provided a transperancy that 30+ years ago didn't exist. Going into the local store you'd think wow a 1909-S VDB the king of the series or wow what a great Morgan, but now with the TPGs and the internet you see them and go wow I can buy basically as many as I want at any time of the day. The pre-internet/TPG market was over hyped on rarity ect and now things have evened out. </p><p><br /></p><p>The other thing though where you really can blame the TPGs, if between them and the internet it is much easier for a collector to spread their interests around. World coins, type collecting etc. You no longer have to be a series specialist and in many ways that bores a lot of people focusing on only one thing always including myself. The collector money is just getting spread out more especially with world coins and modern and more availability to them in 5 minutes online than at a local store. </p><p><br /></p><p>I wouldn't by any means say the hobby is dying or in trouble, but it has been changing and those that just stick to the old ways no matter what have gotten in trouble. Coins clubs will probably die for the most part, local shows and some local only stores certainly as well and magazines, but that doesn't mean the interest is gone.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3375965, member: 76863"]The commemorative series seems like its been falling for about 30 years or so aside from stunning toners and the best of the best. Everything else has been a race to the bottom. But yea when you see that list all I think of is what a debacle of a hot mess this grouping is. I would actually blame dealers here not the TPGs. The TPGs and the internet has provided a transperancy that 30+ years ago didn't exist. Going into the local store you'd think wow a 1909-S VDB the king of the series or wow what a great Morgan, but now with the TPGs and the internet you see them and go wow I can buy basically as many as I want at any time of the day. The pre-internet/TPG market was over hyped on rarity ect and now things have evened out. The other thing though where you really can blame the TPGs, if between them and the internet it is much easier for a collector to spread their interests around. World coins, type collecting etc. You no longer have to be a series specialist and in many ways that bores a lot of people focusing on only one thing always including myself. The collector money is just getting spread out more especially with world coins and modern and more availability to them in 5 minutes online than at a local store. I wouldn't by any means say the hobby is dying or in trouble, but it has been changing and those that just stick to the old ways no matter what have gotten in trouble. Coins clubs will probably die for the most part, local shows and some local only stores certainly as well and magazines, but that doesn't mean the interest is gone.[/QUOTE]
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