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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2783024, member: 56859"]Related to the topic at hand and touching on issues raised in several recent threads, the internet has made researching sales and prices pretty easy.</p><p><br /></p><p>This really makes me wonder about dealers who buy coins at the same auctions collectors attend, and then immediately offering them for sale. Does it really work often enough to make it worthwhile? Do those sellers count on buyers who don't know or care that they can easily check for prior sales and prices? I can understand dealers scouting for relative bargains for quick flips, but in many instances the dealer acquisition price doesn't appear to leave much room for profit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an example: bunches of coins from yesterday's CNG auction already listed for sale by Palmyra (Vcoins store). Below is a screen capture of the first handful of "new listings" (click to enlarge). These were all in <b>yesterday's </b>CNG auction. In red, "E" was CNG's estimate and "H" is the hammer. I'd say the dealer is crazy but two of them already sold-- I hope not for the amount stated. <i>Surely</i> they expect and accept much lower offers? Are there really that many collectors who are so averse to participating in auctions that they willingly pay such a high premium to buy the coin from a dealer <i>the next day</i>?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]644293[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In fairness, I have not gone through each of these coins to see if yesterday's acquisition price was a an exceptionally good deal. At a glance though, I didn't find the hammer prices to be "wholesale".</p><p><br /></p><p>It really bothers me that two of these have already sold, less than 24 hours after someone could have acquired them for half as much <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Maybe I'm making incorrect assumptions about the game being played here. Hopefully one of CoinTalk's dealer members can weigh in on this.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, in case you're thinking, "yeah, but don't forget about the buyer's premium"-- I'm under the impression that dealers get a discount on that when buying from many auction houses.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 2783024, member: 56859"]Related to the topic at hand and touching on issues raised in several recent threads, the internet has made researching sales and prices pretty easy. This really makes me wonder about dealers who buy coins at the same auctions collectors attend, and then immediately offering them for sale. Does it really work often enough to make it worthwhile? Do those sellers count on buyers who don't know or care that they can easily check for prior sales and prices? I can understand dealers scouting for relative bargains for quick flips, but in many instances the dealer acquisition price doesn't appear to leave much room for profit. Here's an example: bunches of coins from yesterday's CNG auction already listed for sale by Palmyra (Vcoins store). Below is a screen capture of the first handful of "new listings" (click to enlarge). These were all in [B]yesterday's [/B]CNG auction. In red, "E" was CNG's estimate and "H" is the hammer. I'd say the dealer is crazy but two of them already sold-- I hope not for the amount stated. [I]Surely[/I] they expect and accept much lower offers? Are there really that many collectors who are so averse to participating in auctions that they willingly pay such a high premium to buy the coin from a dealer [I]the next day[/I]? [ATTACH=full]644293[/ATTACH] In fairness, I have not gone through each of these coins to see if yesterday's acquisition price was a an exceptionally good deal. At a glance though, I didn't find the hammer prices to be "wholesale". It really bothers me that two of these have already sold, less than 24 hours after someone could have acquired them for half as much :(. Maybe I'm making incorrect assumptions about the game being played here. Hopefully one of CoinTalk's dealer members can weigh in on this. Also, in case you're thinking, "yeah, but don't forget about the buyer's premium"-- I'm under the impression that dealers get a discount on that when buying from many auction houses.[/QUOTE]
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