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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;eddiespin, post: 2269924, member: 4920&quot;]Now Charlie, I&#039;m not picking on you when I say this, but &quot;same <i>screwed-up</i> theory as toning&quot; would be my way of rephrasing that. Do you know why? Maybe you&#039;re into hanging labels, I&#039;m into collecting coins. When a coin is harshly cleaned the cartwheel rotation is stripped away. There&#039;s nothing that can get that back. If there&#039;s cartwheel rotation, along with flatness, scratches, i.e., signs of cleaning, I&#039;m factoring in the latter and discounting the value, I&#039;m not hanging a label and calling it quits on the coin for that. Too many collectors do because they take their eye off the coin for their mind&#039;s eye, which is everywhere but on the coin. Is the toning artificial? Is it natural? It&#039;s tarnish. Get with it. We&#039;re not clairvoyant. It&#039;s not important why the tarnish got there. What&#039;s important is whether it&#039;s eye-appealing, to our eye. And cartwheel rotation can&#039;t be imparted. It&#039;s just a fact of life, like rush-hour traffic. Once those spokes, i.e., Mint flow-lines are gone, it&#039;s gone. That&#039;s why we learn, don&#039;t clean. It&#039;s irreparable, we don&#039;t get those back.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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