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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;spock1k, post: 527181, member: 7043&quot;]it is common knowledge that PCGS uses quotas for their 70 grade.&nbsp; ( GD and i have that agreement) but last time it came up we all had a different opinion on what quota was and quite a lot of people took it the wrong way. </p><p><br /></p><p>But you are right evidence will be hard unless you see it for yourself.&nbsp; but if u make the right kind of submissions with the right dealers ur grades will reflect that ( this is for modern stuff only) i have never hear it happen to other non modern us coins.&nbsp; there is also the general average that comes into play as to typically what u will get in an unc roll.</p><p><br /></p><p>large submitters are a happy bunch but IMHO it does not happen due to grade tampering but i have personaly seen designations for coins been changed and not changed depending on who makes the argument and that it can be both good or bad depending on the person and the coin.&nbsp; there is a potential for abuse and at times it does get abused more so in foreign coinage.&nbsp; i have seen some of the discussion that takes place and it is downright uncivil and hostile but its great that the channel is there.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>IMHO despite their shortcomings TPG&#039;s (NGC PCGS) provide a service for US coins that is unmatched elsewhere in the world and a boon to the hobby</p><p><br /></p><p>but for foreign coins they cant even attribute the coin let alone grade (KM is their god for foreign coins even if the darned book is full of mistakes) and they should stop behaving like sgs and pull up their socks[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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