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<p>[QUOTE="huntsman53, post: 177881, member: 1242"]Doug,</p><p><br /></p><p>Great post! I think that everyone here and throughout much of the coin collecting community would also agree but until something is done (and that something must come from the coin collecting community), the hobby will continue to suffer and go down hill.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "organization to ensure compliance of the TPGs and enforcement of the same" exists but has not done enough to protect Coin Collectors as well as the honest Coin Dealers and even if they tried, they lack the teeth to take a bite out the problem! The ANA is the Organization but they are mainly influenced by the big money Coin Dealers and probably by many of the TPGs as well. Even when they come down on the bad Coin Dealers, it has little if any effect as these Coin Dealers will just cancel their' memberships and most will not even miss a beat when it comes to screwing folks out of their hard earned money.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I see it, we as Coin Collectors with or without the backing of the Coin Dealers, need to get tough with the ANA! We should demand that they force the TPGs and Coin Dealers alike to accept Grading Standards (which have been written on and exist for practically every series and denomination of coins ever minted). That they set up a separate board to regulate, rate and even certify the TPGs and to issue quarterly, semi-annual or annual reports on all of the TPGs (to include reports on bogus pop up in the middle of the night TPGs which are infecting the hobby) which should ensure compliance as well as enforcement. That they get tough on the dishonest Coin Dealers including those that sell on Internet sites such as eBay, Yahoo, etc. as well as those that have their' own Websites by maintaining records of history (including various names or User IDs used), any and all complaints and kudos, the outcome of any disputes between Coin Dealers and Buyers and to issue regular reports on the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>I know that it is and will be a hard row to sow but if we as Coin Collectors and Enthusiasts ever want to change the hobby for the better, then we need to buckle down and get tough! We can threaten and promote support for a boycott of Coin Dealers and TPGs that resist, refuse and campaign against this type of regulation by the ANA. If no change(s) is/are seen as forthcoming, then we can and should boycott any and all of these Coin Dealers and TPGs to include the boycotting of Coin Shows and Coin Auctions. Yes, this will be a hard task to undertake and it might mean that we may have to delay purchasing the coin or coins needed for our' Coin Collections but with enough will, we can force the hobby and Coin Industry to change. Without a Customer base, Coin Dealers and TPGs can only do business between themselves for so long before it begins to have an impact on their' incomes and livelihoods and eventually effects their attitudes towards the changes needed!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The Other, Other Frank[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="huntsman53, post: 177881, member: 1242"]Doug, Great post! I think that everyone here and throughout much of the coin collecting community would also agree but until something is done (and that something must come from the coin collecting community), the hobby will continue to suffer and go down hill. The "organization to ensure compliance of the TPGs and enforcement of the same" exists but has not done enough to protect Coin Collectors as well as the honest Coin Dealers and even if they tried, they lack the teeth to take a bite out the problem! The ANA is the Organization but they are mainly influenced by the big money Coin Dealers and probably by many of the TPGs as well. Even when they come down on the bad Coin Dealers, it has little if any effect as these Coin Dealers will just cancel their' memberships and most will not even miss a beat when it comes to screwing folks out of their hard earned money. As I see it, we as Coin Collectors with or without the backing of the Coin Dealers, need to get tough with the ANA! We should demand that they force the TPGs and Coin Dealers alike to accept Grading Standards (which have been written on and exist for practically every series and denomination of coins ever minted). That they set up a separate board to regulate, rate and even certify the TPGs and to issue quarterly, semi-annual or annual reports on all of the TPGs (to include reports on bogus pop up in the middle of the night TPGs which are infecting the hobby) which should ensure compliance as well as enforcement. That they get tough on the dishonest Coin Dealers including those that sell on Internet sites such as eBay, Yahoo, etc. as well as those that have their' own Websites by maintaining records of history (including various names or User IDs used), any and all complaints and kudos, the outcome of any disputes between Coin Dealers and Buyers and to issue regular reports on the same. I know that it is and will be a hard row to sow but if we as Coin Collectors and Enthusiasts ever want to change the hobby for the better, then we need to buckle down and get tough! We can threaten and promote support for a boycott of Coin Dealers and TPGs that resist, refuse and campaign against this type of regulation by the ANA. If no change(s) is/are seen as forthcoming, then we can and should boycott any and all of these Coin Dealers and TPGs to include the boycotting of Coin Shows and Coin Auctions. Yes, this will be a hard task to undertake and it might mean that we may have to delay purchasing the coin or coins needed for our' Coin Collections but with enough will, we can force the hobby and Coin Industry to change. Without a Customer base, Coin Dealers and TPGs can only do business between themselves for so long before it begins to have an impact on their' incomes and livelihoods and eventually effects their attitudes towards the changes needed! The Other, Other Frank[/QUOTE]
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