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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Silver Striker, post: 377647, member: 1745&quot;]I know that this is an OLD thread.&nbsp; However I feel the need to vent again.</p><p><br /></p><p>I read the message that Speedy posted back in 2006 and I am sure by now has changed thoughts regarding collectors submitting coins to SGS.</p><p><br /></p><p>Has anyone here ever submitted any coins to SGS? </p><p><br /></p><p>Unless they are extremely valuable (TO THEM), I don&#039;t believe SGS would even accept them.</p><p><br /></p><p>Check out <a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=21011" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=21011" rel="nofollow">THIS</a> thread.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back in 2006 Coin Word had an article regarding Grading Companies (SGS in my opinion is NOT remotely a third party grading company) and the writer receive a similar reply that was received regarding grading the 1964 proof set that was received in the thread referenced.</p><p><br /></p><p>I obtained the January 2006 issue of Coin World and here is the author&#039;s response from SGS...</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>The first, SGS, said in part: &quot;Sorry, but we are so busy we are not able to take care of our long time customers so we are not answering any requests right now from new customers.&quot;</b></i></p><p><br /></p><p>Funny how they have a 9 month waiting period and cannot grade my common 1964 proof set but JUMP at those 10 unopened 20th anniversary silver Eagles!&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>So do they really grade coins for collectors or is there a hidden agenda to possibly bait-and-switch, coins they receive?</p><p><br /></p><p>After the responses I received, I wouldn&#039;t let them touch my coins with a 2457 MILE LONG POLE!</p><p><br /></p><p>And reading all that BULL on the SGS web page makes me think even less of them.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>SGS is a coin grading </p><p>company with the </p><p>highest standards of</p><p>quality and integrity. </p><p><br /></p><p>They lost all integrity when they made two entirely differing statements regarding their ability to accept coins for grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>And having already seen their grading standards with regard to not seeing obvious things on coins and Silver Strike casino tokens, they have no standards when they can&#039;t even see.&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.sptokens.com/sgs.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sptokens.com/sgs.htm" rel="nofollow">THIS LINK</a> is ample proof of their eyesight and standards.&nbsp; With regards to Silver Strikes they just jumped into that collectible area without any attempt to learn about it and didn&#039;t even know the difference between a casino chip or casino token.&nbsp; What integrity does that show?</p><p><br /></p><p>We&#039;ve all seen the quality of their grading of coins so I won&#039;t even go there.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the ANA sending them an offer.&nbsp; Yes, I do believe that they did and I think that the ANA used the list of those companies listed on the PNG ITCA GRADING SURVEY to send requests to.&nbsp; I do believe that this was a BIG mistake made by the ANA.</p><p><br /></p><p>A while back I posted <a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=28717" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=28717" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> that I had contacted the ANA regarding the statement made by SGS.&nbsp; I did receive replies from two ANA officials but have heard or seen nothing more from them regarding this issue.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do say the only way to STOP SGS, is DO NOT BUY THEM!&nbsp; If the market dries up and they cannot make money they will cease to exist.</p><p><br /></p><p>PROOF??? Why does ABON no longer do Sports Card Grading AKA = A.G.S.(ADVANCED GRADING SERVICE)? The claim was that they were an A.G.S. distributor but you could only get your cards A.G.S. graded through a distributor.&nbsp; YEAH RIGHT.&nbsp; Just like you get your SGS graded coins via Aboncom!</p><p><br /></p><p>Abon used to be...</p><p><br /></p><p>Abon Cards &amp; Coins, Ltd.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is listed on their ABON ENTERPRISES e-bay page <a href="http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&amp;userid=aboncom" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&amp;userid=aboncom" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Go to their website Abon.com and you see that name only listed on their ABOUT US page.&nbsp; Are there any other references to sports cards?&nbsp; Can you find any &quot;graded&quot; sports cards listed by ABONCOM on e-bay?&nbsp; (They do have 3 lots of ungraded sports cards.)&nbsp; I remember when they used to sell sports card supplies.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?tstart=0&amp;threadID=2000156682&amp;mod=1211672697455&amp;anticache=1211877212251" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?tstart=0&amp;threadID=2000156682&amp;mod=1211672697455&amp;anticache=1211877212251" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> is what was listed on an e-bay forum regarding A.G.S. Advancedgrading.com.</p><p><br /></p><p>SGS and Abon have an interesting history but...</p><p><br /></p><p>Is SGS a third party grading company?&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Is their claim &quot;SGS is a coin grading company with the highest standards of quality and integrity&quot; true?</p><p><br /></p><p>I say NO! You decide for yourselves?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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