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<p>[QUOTE="Coins4me, post: 165572, member: 3898"]Well, I might catch a lot of flax from this post, but I am an old timer and I am having a hard time keeping up with the new grading system that seems to try to draw a fine line between AU & AU.</p><p><br /></p><p>What happened to the old system of grading coins by; G - VG - F - VF - EF - & AU ?</p><p>I never had a problem with knowing the condition of my coins with this simplified system.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now trying to grade to a fine line has become a real hassel.</p><p>Someone has included codes that I don't even know what they mean.</p><p>It was bad enough when they included with the old grades the MS condition of 60 - 63 - 64 - 65 - 66 - 67 - 68 -69 & 70.</p><p>I almost thought that this was the end, having 70 as a perfect coin, but now I am not to sure.</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems now they have added letter symbols to the grades, such as MS60B or MS63RB or MS65R & RB on Cent coins. Does anyone know what these letters stand for ? Is this another measurement of extra fine grading ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Nickels too have these new codes such as; MS65FS. The only F designation in a nickel series I know of is Frazer, but what could the S stand for ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, I think you get what I mean by all the US coins graded by this system.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I don't understand mostly is that even proof coins are showing a variation of condition with a range from PF63 through PR70. And guess what, there is even a letter designation now of DC. </p><p>How or who determines a condition variation of a proof coin ? My proofs come in Mint boxes sealed in containers never touched by human hands, are they any different than the proofs you bought from the mint ?</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems to me that the grading of coins has gone too far in trying to select a perfect coin. Of course this method is great for the coin grading servers who may have been the partys responsible for the new grading systems. I can tell you that if I were to walk into a coin shop or to buy from a dealer today, I would have no idea if I were buying a MS63 or MS63RB, but I think I would know if the coin were good, fine or un-circulated and I wouldn't have to pay the extra $ to have my coins graded & slabbed.</p><p><br /></p><p> Dave[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Coins4me, post: 165572, member: 3898"]Well, I might catch a lot of flax from this post, but I am an old timer and I am having a hard time keeping up with the new grading system that seems to try to draw a fine line between AU & AU. What happened to the old system of grading coins by; G - VG - F - VF - EF - & AU ? I never had a problem with knowing the condition of my coins with this simplified system. Now trying to grade to a fine line has become a real hassel. Someone has included codes that I don't even know what they mean. It was bad enough when they included with the old grades the MS condition of 60 - 63 - 64 - 65 - 66 - 67 - 68 -69 & 70. I almost thought that this was the end, having 70 as a perfect coin, but now I am not to sure. It seems now they have added letter symbols to the grades, such as MS60B or MS63RB or MS65R & RB on Cent coins. Does anyone know what these letters stand for ? Is this another measurement of extra fine grading ? Nickels too have these new codes such as; MS65FS. The only F designation in a nickel series I know of is Frazer, but what could the S stand for ? Anyway, I think you get what I mean by all the US coins graded by this system. What I don't understand mostly is that even proof coins are showing a variation of condition with a range from PF63 through PR70. And guess what, there is even a letter designation now of DC. How or who determines a condition variation of a proof coin ? My proofs come in Mint boxes sealed in containers never touched by human hands, are they any different than the proofs you bought from the mint ? It seems to me that the grading of coins has gone too far in trying to select a perfect coin. Of course this method is great for the coin grading servers who may have been the partys responsible for the new grading systems. I can tell you that if I were to walk into a coin shop or to buy from a dealer today, I would have no idea if I were buying a MS63 or MS63RB, but I think I would know if the coin were good, fine or un-circulated and I wouldn't have to pay the extra $ to have my coins graded & slabbed. Dave[/QUOTE]
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