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<p>[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 5407451, member: 85693"]This was such a fine thread I thought I'd bring it back from the distant past of 2019.</p><p><br /></p><p>These Nicaea "standards" issues are so common I never really paid much attention to them, but I just got a lot of cruddy provincials that included three of these, and I found attributing them to be both difficult and pleasurable. I also came to appreciate their provincial charm.</p><p><br /></p><p>As Roman Collector notes above, there are a lot of varieties. RPC online shows several of them, but I have a hunch that they are only scratching the surface.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?volume_id=&number=&city_id=138&region_id=&province_id=&subprovince_id=&reign_id=9&date_min=&date_max=&obverse_inscription_simplified=&reverse_inscription_simplified=&obverse_design=&reverse_design=standards&metal_id=&weight_min=&weight_max=&diameter_min=&diameter_max=&format=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?volume_id=&number=&city_id=138&region_id=&province_id=&subprovince_id=&reign_id=9&date_min=&date_max=&obverse_inscription_simplified=&reverse_inscription_simplified=&obverse_design=&reverse_design=standards&metal_id=&weight_min=&weight_max=&diameter_min=&diameter_max=&format=" rel="nofollow">https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?volume_id=&number=&city_id=138&region_id=&province_id=&subprovince_id=&reign_id=9&date_min=&date_max=&obverse_inscription_simplified=&reverse_inscription_simplified=&obverse_design=&reverse_design=standards&metal_id=&weight_min=&weight_max=&diameter_min=&diameter_max=&format=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Wildwinds has a good selection of them, including types with the reverse legend around and not between the standards. But coming up with exact matches is difficult.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, here are my three new ones - they are a bit rough, but they wound up costing about $0.86 each and kept me busy for a few hours. I decided to start attributing these with details on the reverse standards; a few on Wildwinds do this and I thought it was a good idea, since there is a lot of interesting variations here (number of "signs" and bars, what is on top, etc.).</p><p><br /></p><p>This one seems to match one of the most common varieties:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234005[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Severus Alexander Æ 22</b></p><p><b>n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Bithynia, Nicaea</b></p><p>Μ ΑΥΡ CΕ[Υ(Η) ΑΛEΖ]ΑΝΔΡΟC Α<u>ΥΓ</u>, laureate head right / ΝI−Κ−ΑΙ−Ε / ΩΝ</p><p>between 3 legionary standards (1-1-1 badges; 2-2-2 bars each).</p><p>RPC VI, 3201 (temporary); BMC 102v.; RecGen I-III 617.</p><p>(4.12 grams / 22 x 19 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>This one is off-center, but after looking at a lot of these, I think you can tell if the reverse "ΩΝ" is in the exergue by the way the other letters are spaced out between the standards. This one has ribbons above the standards - at least I think that is what they are:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234006[/ATTACH]</p><p><b>Severus Alexander Æ 22</b></p><p><b>n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Bithynia, Nicaea</b></p><p>[Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ(Η)]ΑΛE[ΖΑΝΔΡΟC Α<u>ΥΓ]</u>, radiate, dr. & cuir. bust r. / ΝI−Κ−ΑΙ−Ε / [ΩΝ] between 3 legionary standards (2-2-2 badges; 1-1-1 bars, 1-1-1 ribbons (above) each).</p><p>RPC VI, 3260 (temporary).</p><p>(4.22 grams / 20 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>This final one has the legend around, rather than between the standards. Marsman's lovely OP is an example of this type, and he notes it as being unattributed, which after some digging, I have to agree with. RPC doesn't have one like this, although Wildwinds does, but I wasn't confident of a match. Note the legend on Marsman's finishes in the exergue; mine below does not. And so the varieties proliferate!</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, as Doug illustrates with his wonderfully "barbaric" version above, these seem to have been imitated, and I think it possible mine is an imitation, as it looks a bit "off." The nose on Severus Alexander looks like an Egyptian ibis, probably a die cud or "patina snot" (I think I invented a numismatic term!). The reverse lettering is crude - those N's look retrograde:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234007[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Patina Snot (detail):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1234008[/ATTACH]</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Severus Alexander Æ 20</b></p><p><b>n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.)</b></p><p><b>Bithynia, Nicaea</b></p><p>[Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ?]Η ΑΛEΖΑΝΔΡΟC ΑΥ, laureate head right / ΝIΚΑΙΕΩΝ around</p><p>3 legionary standards, (2-2-2 badges; 2-2-2 bars each), all three topped with crescents.</p><p>Unknown attribution; imitative?</p><p>(4.61 grams / 22 x 19 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Please keep sharing your Nicaea standards. Also, any information on why these were issued - I am guessing a military campaign, but I didn't really find much online.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Marsyas Mike, post: 5407451, member: 85693"]This was such a fine thread I thought I'd bring it back from the distant past of 2019. These Nicaea "standards" issues are so common I never really paid much attention to them, but I just got a lot of cruddy provincials that included three of these, and I found attributing them to be both difficult and pleasurable. I also came to appreciate their provincial charm. As Roman Collector notes above, there are a lot of varieties. RPC online shows several of them, but I have a hunch that they are only scratching the surface. [URL]https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?volume_id=&number=&city_id=138®ion_id=&province_id=&subprovince_id=&reign_id=9&date_min=&date_max=&obverse_inscription_simplified=&reverse_inscription_simplified=&obverse_design=&reverse_design=standards&metal_id=&weight_min=&weight_max=&diameter_min=&diameter_max=&format=[/URL] Wildwinds has a good selection of them, including types with the reverse legend around and not between the standards. But coming up with exact matches is difficult. Anyway, here are my three new ones - they are a bit rough, but they wound up costing about $0.86 each and kept me busy for a few hours. I decided to start attributing these with details on the reverse standards; a few on Wildwinds do this and I thought it was a good idea, since there is a lot of interesting variations here (number of "signs" and bars, what is on top, etc.). This one seems to match one of the most common varieties: [ATTACH=full]1234005[/ATTACH] [B]Severus Alexander Æ 22 n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.) Bithynia, Nicaea[/B] Μ ΑΥΡ CΕ[Υ(Η) ΑΛEΖ]ΑΝΔΡΟC Α[U]ΥΓ[/U], laureate head right / ΝI−Κ−ΑΙ−Ε / ΩΝ between 3 legionary standards (1-1-1 badges; 2-2-2 bars each). RPC VI, 3201 (temporary); BMC 102v.; RecGen I-III 617. (4.12 grams / 22 x 19 mm) This one is off-center, but after looking at a lot of these, I think you can tell if the reverse "ΩΝ" is in the exergue by the way the other letters are spaced out between the standards. This one has ribbons above the standards - at least I think that is what they are: [ATTACH=full]1234006[/ATTACH] [B]Severus Alexander Æ 22 n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.) Bithynia, Nicaea[/B] [Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ(Η)]ΑΛE[ΖΑΝΔΡΟC Α[U]ΥΓ][/U], radiate, dr. & cuir. bust r. / ΝI−Κ−ΑΙ−Ε / [ΩΝ] between 3 legionary standards (2-2-2 badges; 1-1-1 bars, 1-1-1 ribbons (above) each). RPC VI, 3260 (temporary). (4.22 grams / 20 mm) This final one has the legend around, rather than between the standards. Marsman's lovely OP is an example of this type, and he notes it as being unattributed, which after some digging, I have to agree with. RPC doesn't have one like this, although Wildwinds does, but I wasn't confident of a match. Note the legend on Marsman's finishes in the exergue; mine below does not. And so the varieties proliferate! Furthermore, as Doug illustrates with his wonderfully "barbaric" version above, these seem to have been imitated, and I think it possible mine is an imitation, as it looks a bit "off." The nose on Severus Alexander looks like an Egyptian ibis, probably a die cud or "patina snot" (I think I invented a numismatic term!). The reverse lettering is crude - those N's look retrograde: [ATTACH=full]1234007[/ATTACH] Patina Snot (detail): [ATTACH=full]1234008[/ATTACH] [B] Severus Alexander Æ 20 n.d. (c. 222-235 A.D.) Bithynia, Nicaea[/B] [Μ ΑΥΡ CΕΥ?]Η ΑΛEΖΑΝΔΡΟC ΑΥ, laureate head right / ΝIΚΑΙΕΩΝ around 3 legionary standards, (2-2-2 badges; 2-2-2 bars each), all three topped with crescents. Unknown attribution; imitative? (4.61 grams / 22 x 19 mm) Please keep sharing your Nicaea standards. Also, any information on why these were issued - I am guessing a military campaign, but I didn't really find much online.[/QUOTE]
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