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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;19Lyds, post: 2328635, member: 15929&quot;]&quot;Cleaned&quot; is a relative term which is deeply rooted into today&#039;s generation of collectors as &quot;a bad thing&quot; based upon the fact that reputable TPG&#039;s will NOT grade a coin which they deem as having been cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, &quot;cleaned&quot; is nothing more than an opinion based upon perhaps a 10 second viewing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I expect that the original intention behind the term revolved around harsh abrasives such as simple rubbing with soap and water (with gritty fingers) under the tap up to scrubbings with SOS or Brillo pads. In other words, a bright, lusterlous coin with obvious scratching which the average person would deem &quot;Looks like New!&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the &quot;cleaning&quot; opinion, I have had coins labeled as cleaned which upon resubmission received a grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>Are cleaning and conservation the same thing?</p><p><br /></p><p>Not really since conservation is intended to stabilize the coin without imparting harsh or damaging evidence of the conservation. Done by a professional who, BTW, believes that a proper conservation is possible, one might never know that the coin has been conserved.</p><p><br /></p><p>What this means is that not every coin is a good candidate for conserving and it&#039;s up to the professional to make that determination as not every coin submitted for conservation actually gets conserved.</p><p><br /></p><p>Additionally, not every conservation attempt guarantee&#039;s a good outcome as shown by the first coin presented by the OP. While the dark spots are indeed gone, the color of the coin appears to have been affected. But then, it is dependent upon the coin and the relative value of the coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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