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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 1246575, member: 13650&quot;]Have you ever watched the torture test videos of a Liberty gun safe?&nbsp;&nbsp; They put money in it and told these guys if they could break into it, they could have the money.&nbsp;&nbsp; Five guys beating and prying on it didn&#039;t do the trick.&nbsp; So they dropped it from a second or third story building.&nbsp; Still didn&#039;t open.&nbsp; They drug it, shot it and in the end plant explosives on the door and it still didn&#039;t open.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I think they&#039;re about top of the line to where you can&#039;t do much better.&nbsp; The highest end ones are 7 gauge steel with 1/4&quot; plate steel in the door.&nbsp; 26 one and a half inch bolts in the door,&nbsp; 4 inches thick and can withstand 1200 degrees for 2.5 hours.&nbsp; Lifetime, transferable warranty.&nbsp; If somebody tries to break into one or you have a fire, they will repair or replace for free.&nbsp;&nbsp; These will run you 4 to 5 grand.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;The next series down is still pretty good.&nbsp; 90 min. fire rating , 3 inches thick, less bolts but falls in the 3 grand range.&nbsp; The problem is I don&#039;t know what you have to do if you need to move one again.&nbsp; Not real experienced in moving 1300 lb objects.&nbsp; That isn&#039;t something a couple guys are going to carry up some steps and walk out with.&nbsp; Or even get in a truck if it was sitting outside.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I&#039;d say at minimum, don&#039;t advertise and keep things well hidden is half the battle.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you have a &#039;real&#039; safe, that is a plus.&nbsp; I plan on getting a Liberty in the near future.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Just like to add that there are risks in all options involved.&nbsp; Nothing is perfect.&nbsp; I&#039;ve found the less people you get involved in things, the better off you usually are.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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