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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;gboulton, post: 1246557, member: 27043&quot;]And here is an example of the point I was making above.&nbsp; You&#039;re right...they&#039;re frequently a lot cheaper.&nbsp; Trouble is, they&#039;re often WORTH the cheaper price.</p><p><br /></p><p>Consider the following:</p><p><br /></p><p>A sawzall with a fire &amp; rescue blade can cut a CAR in half in less than 90 seconds.&nbsp; How long do you think it&#039;ll take a couple of thieves to make the SINGLE cut in your wall necessary to tip over your gun safe?</p><p><br /></p><p>From there, let&#039;s give them a full minute to find a fulcrum suitable enough to lever the safe over on its back.&nbsp; A footstool, dining room chair, dresser drawer, old television, cedar chest, any number of items might do the trick.&nbsp; Ok...we&#039;re up to 2:30 now.</p><p><br /></p><p>There exists at least one &quot;cheaper&quot; gunsafe on the market that can be broken open in less than 2 minutes with a couple of crowbars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Clearly your &quot;safe in a safe&quot; can be lifted...else you wouldn&#039;t have gotten it in there.&nbsp; So, we&#039;ll just haul it out to the getaway vehicle, and open it later at our leisure...unless it&#039;s a brand notorious for weak locking mechanisms, which might well be openable in &lt; 10 seconds.</p><p><br /></p><p>So...we&#039;re STILL less than 5 minutes here.&nbsp; 5 minutes, with tools commonly available for &lt; $100 total from any nearby hardware shop, and me and my buddy are in and out of your house before the neighbors are even sure the cops SHOULD be called.</p><p><br /></p><p>Don&#039;t believe me?&nbsp; here&#039;s a gun safe being pried open in &lt; 2:00:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M" rel="nofollow">A</a>nd a sawzall cutting a car in half in 1:13.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI77IJvwQQ4" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI77IJvwQQ4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI77IJvwQQ4</a></p><p><br /></p><p>=======================</p><p><br /></p><p>Please understand, cookiemonster12, this isn&#039;t meant as an attack at you at all.&nbsp; Obviously, I have NO IDEA what brand of safe you own (nor should you say, obviously), nor how it&#039;s mounted, nor where, nor what other security you may have in place, etc.&nbsp; Clearly, I can&#039;t begin to make an assessment of your particular collection&#039;s security.</p><p><br /></p><p>All I mean to point out is this:</p><p><br /></p><p>The mere fact a gun safe is &quot;bigger&quot;, or a safe is &quot;bolted to the wall&quot;, or what have you, does not a &quot;secure&quot; system make.&nbsp; Security of your home, belongings, and person are, like everything else, a function of research, and the wisest collector is advised to be aware of what his/her own system is, or isn&#039;t, capable of.</p><p><br /></p><p>While you may not always get what you pay for, you will never get what you don&#039;t pay for.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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