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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Collector1966, post: 1260562, member: 17919&quot;]It&#039;s sad that it is coming to the point where even honest dealers are being taken by these fakes. Part of the fun for me was going through raw US gold here in Japan and trying to pick out raw coins that would grade Mint State (Japanese dealers don&#039;t really care about American slabbed grades-- to a lot of them, an MS-61 is actually an AU). So I have been able to pick up a few &quot;AU&quot; gold pieces here and get an MS designation from a major TPG in the US. Only once (so far) has a coin been returned as fake-- by PCGS, NGC, and ANACS-- but neither the dealer nor I could find anything wrong with the coin. At least the dealer was gracious enough to give me a refund on that.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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