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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;coppermania, post: 812936, member: 18304&quot;]Alot of good stuff here. I think that what I am hearing from the forum is there is no shame in the hobby or making an honest profit, which I agree. There are many metaphors for life in the hobby. As a novice/collector turned trader/advanced collector I realize now more than ever how I was taken for a ride in the beginning and had to struggle past that without a resentment. In the early stages of my collecting I bought many coins with &quot;help&quot; from friends and dealers to find out later some coins were tooled, recolored and AU instead of MS. I learned this when I tried to certify or sell some of the coins and I think we lose many a collector at that turn. I call that Tuition and now, with that feeling in my gut I could never hammer a newbie and they will eventually find out the facts and be sore later.&nbsp; I know it hurts a little to hear what some think from the outside looking in and I was looking for ideas on how to improve that image, dealer or otherwise.&nbsp; Your responses help me compartmentalize my feelings and hopefuly strengthen your own. Matt[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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