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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2907693, member: 112"]A this point I'm not sure what product you have, but short and sweet you DO NOT want to use either one of them ! Here's why.</p><p><br /></p><p>They don't make Blue Ribbon anymore but there are other products similar to it, one of them is called Coin Care, yet another is called Classic Coin Conditioner, but as I said they are all quite similar. They are advertised as coin cleaning products, but they are also advertised as "coin conditioner" products - and that right there, well that should be the giant red flag that's waving in your face ! </p><p><br /></p><p>They call them coin conditioners because they leave an oily film on your coins, ostensibly as a protective coating that is supposed to inhibit corrosion. These products are largely designed and intended to be used on copper because copper is such a reactive metal. But this oily film also has another effect on the coins, it can make a dull, lifeless, chocolate toned copper coin look like a lustrous chocolate toned copper coin that many collectors highly desire. But in reality the coin is not lustrous at all, it merely looks that way because of the oily film. These products are things that coin doctors frequently use in order to take advantage of those who are less knowledgeable. And make no mistake, these products can be quite effective when expertly applied and have even fooled the TPGs from to time. </p><p><br /></p><p>But there is also a downside to these products that nobody tells you about. For one thing the oily film acts almost as an attractant for any dust particles in the air will stick to it, as will tiny skin particles that flake off of you as you handle the coin, and any fine dirt or other particles that can come into contact with the coin by accident. All of these things can and will cause spotting as time passes. The other part of the downside is that with time the oily film decomposes and can turn into a globular mess for lack of a better way to describe it, a mess that will need to be cleaned off the coin - again, and again, and again.</p><p><br /></p><p>The TPGs have gotten a lot better at detecting this stuff than they used to be. And you don't need fancy machines (sniffers) to detect it, you just need to have the experience to know what it looks like when you see it. And if they do detect it, well you can forget your coin being graded and slabbed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Luckily, for anyone who does not know or is not aware of the pitfalls of using these products, and has used them, well there's a fairly simple way of fixing the problem. Xylene will work quite well to remove the oily film from the coins - without harming the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now if you can't remember the names or you don't know exactly which product you have, they look like these.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/product/coin-care.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/product/coin-care.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/product/coin-care.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.coinconditioner.com/home.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinconditioner.com/home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinconditioner.com/home.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/352204881698_/Original-Un-opened-bottle-of-Blue-Ribbon-Coin-Cleaner.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/352204881698_/Original-Un-opened-bottle-of-Blue-Ribbon-Coin-Cleaner.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/352204881698_/Original-Un-opened-bottle-of-Blue-Ribbon-Coin-Cleaner.jpg</a></p><p><br /></p><p>My advice, don't ever use them. If you've already bought them, throw them away.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2907693, member: 112"]A this point I'm not sure what product you have, but short and sweet you DO NOT want to use either one of them ! Here's why. They don't make Blue Ribbon anymore but there are other products similar to it, one of them is called Coin Care, yet another is called Classic Coin Conditioner, but as I said they are all quite similar. They are advertised as coin cleaning products, but they are also advertised as "coin conditioner" products - and that right there, well that should be the giant red flag that's waving in your face ! They call them coin conditioners because they leave an oily film on your coins, ostensibly as a protective coating that is supposed to inhibit corrosion. These products are largely designed and intended to be used on copper because copper is such a reactive metal. But this oily film also has another effect on the coins, it can make a dull, lifeless, chocolate toned copper coin look like a lustrous chocolate toned copper coin that many collectors highly desire. But in reality the coin is not lustrous at all, it merely looks that way because of the oily film. These products are things that coin doctors frequently use in order to take advantage of those who are less knowledgeable. And make no mistake, these products can be quite effective when expertly applied and have even fooled the TPGs from to time. But there is also a downside to these products that nobody tells you about. For one thing the oily film acts almost as an attractant for any dust particles in the air will stick to it, as will tiny skin particles that flake off of you as you handle the coin, and any fine dirt or other particles that can come into contact with the coin by accident. All of these things can and will cause spotting as time passes. The other part of the downside is that with time the oily film decomposes and can turn into a globular mess for lack of a better way to describe it, a mess that will need to be cleaned off the coin - again, and again, and again. The TPGs have gotten a lot better at detecting this stuff than they used to be. And you don't need fancy machines (sniffers) to detect it, you just need to have the experience to know what it looks like when you see it. And if they do detect it, well you can forget your coin being graded and slabbed. Luckily, for anyone who does not know or is not aware of the pitfalls of using these products, and has used them, well there's a fairly simple way of fixing the problem. Xylene will work quite well to remove the oily film from the coins - without harming the coins. Now if you can't remember the names or you don't know exactly which product you have, they look like these. [url]http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/product/coin-care.html[/url] [url]http://www.coinconditioner.com/home.html[/url] [url]https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/352204881698_/Original-Un-opened-bottle-of-Blue-Ribbon-Coin-Cleaner.jpg[/url] My advice, don't ever use them. If you've already bought them, throw them away.[/QUOTE]
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