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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 832665, member: 16510&quot;]Doug post is true and not true, applicable and not applicable, real world and not.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I have used those products with much success and no complaints.</p><p>They are never used unless the coin in question can improved, not covered up when done correctly.</p><p>I never use them on coins grading VF and above except rarely and not on in any attempt to deceive any customer.</p><p>I readily tell buyers of these coins if treated that I do this to the coins they are buying in fact because I am proud of my wheats when treated this way if done correctly.</p><p>Look, I&#039;m talking about wheats from the teens and twenties that one finds when going through collections that have ground in crud 98% of the time. Generally coins that sell for $2 to $5 in the first place.</p><p>The long term effects 20 years anyway are perfect.&nbsp; These products do improve the overall surface and do indeed improve cruddy coins.</p><p>Just as canned air (during posts in the past) was frowned upon by many members it does nothing to hurt coins surface - those comments are some kind of strange paranoid speaking that simply is not true, when done correctly.&nbsp; It does not make sence and when it does not make sence I don&#039;t buy it.</p><p>I&#039;ve spoken before on here about this somehow strange attitude regaring common coin conserving practices.&nbsp; All dealers do it (that I know) and it&#039;s not right to somehow spout this stuff as it relates to &quot;the real world&quot; as the gospel.&nbsp; It&#039;s a clinical dissconnect that many people find as less than the whole truth when they go out into the real coin world.&nbsp; They are left thinking, &quot;well they told me this was no good, they told me not to do it, I thought it harmed all coins, why are some dealer friends just now starting to let me in on this, I didn&#039;t know it was done by so many, and on and on and on&quot;.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I firmily believe if the gold conservation methods used on the SS Central America coins had been discussed here on CoinTalk they would have been blasted with pages of this same clinical type disconnect. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Conserving can improve coins when done with great care and by knowlegable people and is done everyday and has been done all along.</p><p>That&#039;s the real story here.&nbsp; To think otherwise is not telling (and not learning) the entire story.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Finally if such a decpetive practice why are members so willing to tell &quot;all about it&quot; in such great detail as this?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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