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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 832636, member: 112&quot;]Lot&#039;s of folks listen to you Thad and have a great deal of respect for your opinion, so when I read comments like this made by you, I always find myself wishing you would have expanded them just a bit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I agree completely that oil of any kind is bad for coins. And that its use on coins is primarily done to deceive. But, let us not forget that there are those collectors who think that oil, or oil products with fancy sounding names are good for their coins. Names like Blue Riboon and Coin Care - why do you (not you Thad,&nbsp; but anybody) think they choose those names to begin with ?</p><p><br /></p><p>They choose them because of the positive conotation that the name implies. It&#039;s a psychological ploy to get people to buy the product. And it works - the ploy, not the product.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure, oils and oil products made for coins make your coins look great when you first put it on them. But that&#039;s what the products are supposed to do. They are playing on the same emotions that collectors constantly undergo about &quot;cleaning&quot; their coins to make them &quot;look&quot; better. So, in the eyes of many collectors, any product that makes their coins &quot;look&quot; better has to be good ! Right ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Wrong !!</p><p><br /></p><p>And yes, the oils will help protect your coins from corrosion and unsightly toning. <u>But only temporarily.</u> And THAT&#039;S the part that the makers and sellers of these products fail to tell the buyers and users of their products. </p><p><br /></p><p>They also fail to tell them that experienced numismatists take a dim view of these products. That the products lessen the value of the coins. That few if any exprienced collectors would ever knowingly buy coins treated with these products. That, in time, these products will harm the coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>And let&#039;s not forget to throw the vaunted TPG towel into the ring. For the proponents of these products use that as their badge of honor, their final selling point, their vindication and validation for the use of these products. Claiming that because the TPG&#039;s will slab coins treated with these products that the products must therefore be OK and that the claims made by the manufacturers are correct. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well, they forget to tell you that dreadful word again - temporarily. They forget to mention that in time those coins in the slabs will turn, become ugly, irreparably harmed, and if re-submitted will be removed from those slabs and placed where they belong andalways did belong - among the ranks of the problem coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>But before all of that happens, those treated coins will be sold to the unsuspecting and the unknowing collectors out there who have trust and faith in the plastic slab surrounding their coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Sure, some of those coins will submitted under the TPG grading guarantee. And the TPG&#039;s will honor those guarantees. But at what cost and to whom ? Who knows what fair market value will be when that happens ? How many will even be re-submitted ? How many will be removed from the slab by collectors who don&#039;t like slabs and only bought them for the authentication aspect to begin with ?</p><p><br /></p><p>So I say to you all, I scream it from the rafters - NO ! These products are NOT a good thing ! They are but one more of the multitude of ways that collectors and dealers will undertake in an effort to make their coins &quot;look&quot; better.</p><p><br /></p><p>Half the time these products are used in an effort to deceive YOU, the potential buyer. The other half of the time the products are used by those who wish to dececeive themselves into thinking that they are now the proud owners of a coin that &quot;looks&quot; better than it really is.</p><p><br /></p><p>For those of you with a brain - think of it like this. Would you buy these products, would you use these products if the label had the name Maybelline, Clairol, Loreal or Cover Girl on the package ? </p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s all these products are you know - makeup for coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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