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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8169517, member: 24314"]This is my original response to your foray onto this discussion:</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><b>Apparently, you missed some posted info from copper collectors. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></b></span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>whopper64, posted: 8165325, member: "The gist of these posts (IMHO) is that inert oils should not really harm the coins, but any improvement of appearance is temporary. <i><span style="color: #660033">[It all depends on what "temporary" means to you. Oil can remain on a coin for a very, very, very long time. Eventually, some oils turn into a thick dry crust.] </span></i> This is where the intent to deceive if the coin is sold relatively soon after the oiling <i><span style="color: #660033">[Unfortunately, without intent <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, </span><font size="5"><span style="color: #660033">this opinion then </span><b><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">implies</span></b></font><span style="color: #660033"> that all Large cent dealers are crooks!]</span></i> I also realize that any coins AU or above should never be oiled, <span style="color: #660033"><i>[<b>ABSOLUTELY FALSE! </b> A <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie90" alt=":spitoutdummy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> opinion. Actually, the higher the grade - the more lustrous the copper becomes. Note: If "Red" copper is oiled to remove something, I remove the oil when done] </i></span>but that the oiling can be done to lower grade coins to help clean them without harsh chemicals to improve their appearance."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><b>This next proves you did not understand what I wrote</b>; however, I enjoyed reading how you twisted and misquoted my comments so that you could play the "offended card." I should lighten up so that you would continue to be uninformed? Sorry, that's not me. </span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>whopper64, posted: "First, temporary is temporary, permanent is permanent - lighten up Insider. </p><p><br /></p><p>I<i><span style="color: #660033"> was stationed in California on temporary duty for six years. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>Second, Never said anyone was a crook [<i><span style="color: #660033">Of course you didn't - you IMPLIED IT!]</span></i> led rises to shady practices - lighten up Insider.</p><p><br /></p><p>Third, Too many distinguished members have stated that no coin should be oiled, especially higher grade coins. [<i><span style="color: #660033">Each of the distinguished <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> members has both a backside and an opinion. So let's just ignore the copper dealer and the kid who has been cleaning all sorts of things since he was old enough to sniff glue.]</span></i> Just because you remove the oil when you're done [<i><span style="color: #660033">BUT most of the time I DON'T ...wait for it...because the oil is used to remain on the coin</span></i>] does not mean that every other collector/seller does so - lighten up Insider."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8169517, member: 24314"]This is my original response to your foray onto this discussion: [I][COLOR=#660033][B]Apparently, you missed some posted info from copper collectors. ;)[/B][/COLOR][/I] whopper64, posted: 8165325, member: "The gist of these posts (IMHO) is that inert oils should not really harm the coins, but any improvement of appearance is temporary. [I][COLOR=#660033][It all depends on what "temporary" means to you. Oil can remain on a coin for a very, very, very long time. Eventually, some oils turn into a thick dry crust.] [/COLOR][/I] This is where the intent to deceive if the coin is sold relatively soon after the oiling [I][COLOR=#660033][Unfortunately, without intent :confused:, [/COLOR][SIZE=5][COLOR=#660033]this opinion then [/COLOR][B][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]implies[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][COLOR=#660033] that all Large cent dealers are crooks!][/COLOR][/I] I also realize that any coins AU or above should never be oiled, [COLOR=#660033][I][[B]ABSOLUTELY FALSE! [/B] A :wacky: :spitoutdummy: opinion. Actually, the higher the grade - the more lustrous the copper becomes. Note: If "Red" copper is oiled to remove something, I remove the oil when done] [/I][/COLOR]but that the oiling can be done to lower grade coins to help clean them without harsh chemicals to improve their appearance." [I][COLOR=#660033][B]This next proves you did not understand what I wrote[/B]; however, I enjoyed reading how you twisted and misquoted my comments so that you could play the "offended card." I should lighten up so that you would continue to be uninformed? Sorry, that's not me. [/COLOR][/I] whopper64, posted: "First, temporary is temporary, permanent is permanent - lighten up Insider. I[I][COLOR=#660033] was stationed in California on temporary duty for six years. :D[/COLOR][/I] Second, Never said anyone was a crook [[I][COLOR=#660033]Of course you didn't - you IMPLIED IT!][/COLOR][/I] led rises to shady practices - lighten up Insider. Third, Too many distinguished members have stated that no coin should be oiled, especially higher grade coins. [[I][COLOR=#660033]Each of the distinguished :bookworm::cigar: members has both a backside and an opinion. So let's just ignore the copper dealer and the kid who has been cleaning all sorts of things since he was old enough to sniff glue.][/COLOR][/I] Just because you remove the oil when you're done [[I][COLOR=#660033]BUT most of the time I DON'T ...wait for it...because the oil is used to remain on the coin[/COLOR][/I]] does not mean that every other collector/seller does so - lighten up Insider."[/QUOTE]
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