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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 678152, member: 15199&quot;]<b>Results:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>It really amazes me how much some of you see in the photographs. It has really improved my &quot;vision&quot; also. The last part of this story is somewhat in the air as I will explain shortly.</p><p><br /></p><p>First: it is&nbsp; <b>NGC MS64,&nbsp; but it is not in a slab.</b> Also although not noted on the label, it does have some PVC &quot;oiliness&quot; and fingerprints develop in the 20 years since being graded.</p><p><br /></p><p>Back in the dark ages of online auctions, 1989, Teletrade had just started, by mailing a catalog out and bidders dialed their phones and tapped out their bids by touchtone. PCGS was using their Old green rattlers slabs and NGC was just coming into activity. NGC pre-graded some coins for teletrade, and put them into PVC flips with a label bearing a handwrittern grade. Teletrade advertised them as NGC MS64 in my catalog. I am the original buyer.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq279/desertgem/IMG_1908.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq279/desertgem/IMG_1909.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I had the decision to either break them out, and remove the pvc plasticizers ( there doesn&#039;t appear under the scope to be irreversible damage) with acetone and keep raw or resubmit........Or, check with NGC and see if this was covered by their guarantee. Copper is only guaranteed for 10 years, but there was no limit on silver that I could find. I called NGC and they were confused by my description of the flip/label with NGC on it. The said are you sure it doesn&#039;t say NCE or NNC. No I said. The nice lady went to check with senior members of the staff and they said they had never heard or seen of such, so please send email photos ( the ones you see here) and they would let me know if they would replace them or not. I said it might be nice to do.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>But then I wondered if the trouble was worth it, since it and its brother ( same type flip) are not high valued coins, but we will see what they say.</p><p><br /></p><p>So Give yourself a pat if you said&nbsp; MS64 +/-&nbsp; and bonus points for noticing the problems. I think the strike got a few people. I think it is a good price, but that is all in the opinion of the person. Thanks for playing! I will let you know what NGC finally says.:secret:</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope you enjoyed this little deviation as most have never seen this type of certification.&nbsp; The teletrade # on the back is 4992. If it wasn&#039;t for the problem, I would keep as is for the historical interest.</p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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