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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 6488370, member: 105098"]Too bad that CAC only stickers PCGS or NGC and won't touch ANACS or ICG, that would be a solution to your dilemma.</p><p><br /></p><p>Which is the problem with ICG and ANACS, I mean they are 2nd tier to NGC and PCGS. I think they are fine services for authentication or variety attributions, but nobody is going to trust a MS68 if it's top pop in those slabs, when they likely would with NGC or PCGS. Ideally with a high grade coin, and more importantly high value, you'd want it in the most credible holder, and even get that CAC sticker as an additional step if it qualifies to maximize prospective buyers trust.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the end, each company has their grading standards and their graders, it's really whether the "market" has confidence in their ability or not, (and track record really doesn't matter because they all have slabbed head scratchers over their time in the business) the perception is PGCS is better than NGC, NGC is better than ANACS, ANACS is better than ICG.</p><p><br /></p><p>If it's a MS68 or even 69, as you say you paid less than $10 for it. crack it out submit it to PCGS, if you know grading, and you are being critical with your coins, and you come to this conclusion, then in all likelihood so would PCGS. it's really the only way it's really going to pay off for you, a 1955-S is common, but it is a "grade rarity" if it's up at MS68 or 69. only way that's trusted is if it gets in a PCGS slab ideally. and since you are there, no reason not to submit for CAC also.</p><p><br /></p><p>Get those two things done and I see no reason it couldn't sell on Heritage or any of the auction houses for max value.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, if it was overgraded by ICG and you are being lenient and optimistic on it yourself, then it's likely it was overgraded, and you know it and this is why you are reluctant to gamble further on getting it crossed over because it will downgrade.</p><p><br /></p><p>You can crack it out, take ICG bias out of the assessment of it, I still think it would be downgraded though, even if it meets the textbook definition of MS68. NGC is more critical, and PCGS is even more critical than NGC. </p><p><br /></p><p>Only way to actually get that top pop money is to actually be part of their top pop.</p><p><br /></p><p>your problem comes because ICG population report shows 29 examples at MS68 ans 2000 examples at MS67.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS has 1 in MS68.</p><p>NGC has Zero in MS68 and 3200 in MS67.</p><p><br /></p><p>So why does ICG have 29 of them when NGC and PCGS both been around at least a decade longer?</p><p><br /></p><p>No buyer is going to pay top dollar to then gamble on a cross over to NGC or PCGS. it's maybe a $20-$100 coin in MS67. If MS68 by PCGS or NGC, it's in the $1000s.</p><p><br /></p><p>ICG has graded 29 in MS68, and that's the problem. AN ICG graded MS68 of that year and mintmark is likely worth $20-$100 if they kept track of it.</p><p><br /></p><p>ICG has 30x the population of 1955 S MS68 that PCGS and NGC have combined. Maybe it's fairly graded, but maybe it's graded more lenient than NGC or PCGS would.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 6488370, member: 105098"]Too bad that CAC only stickers PCGS or NGC and won't touch ANACS or ICG, that would be a solution to your dilemma. Which is the problem with ICG and ANACS, I mean they are 2nd tier to NGC and PCGS. I think they are fine services for authentication or variety attributions, but nobody is going to trust a MS68 if it's top pop in those slabs, when they likely would with NGC or PCGS. Ideally with a high grade coin, and more importantly high value, you'd want it in the most credible holder, and even get that CAC sticker as an additional step if it qualifies to maximize prospective buyers trust. In the end, each company has their grading standards and their graders, it's really whether the "market" has confidence in their ability or not, (and track record really doesn't matter because they all have slabbed head scratchers over their time in the business) the perception is PGCS is better than NGC, NGC is better than ANACS, ANACS is better than ICG. If it's a MS68 or even 69, as you say you paid less than $10 for it. crack it out submit it to PCGS, if you know grading, and you are being critical with your coins, and you come to this conclusion, then in all likelihood so would PCGS. it's really the only way it's really going to pay off for you, a 1955-S is common, but it is a "grade rarity" if it's up at MS68 or 69. only way that's trusted is if it gets in a PCGS slab ideally. and since you are there, no reason not to submit for CAC also. Get those two things done and I see no reason it couldn't sell on Heritage or any of the auction houses for max value. However, if it was overgraded by ICG and you are being lenient and optimistic on it yourself, then it's likely it was overgraded, and you know it and this is why you are reluctant to gamble further on getting it crossed over because it will downgrade. You can crack it out, take ICG bias out of the assessment of it, I still think it would be downgraded though, even if it meets the textbook definition of MS68. NGC is more critical, and PCGS is even more critical than NGC. Only way to actually get that top pop money is to actually be part of their top pop. your problem comes because ICG population report shows 29 examples at MS68 ans 2000 examples at MS67. PCGS has 1 in MS68. NGC has Zero in MS68 and 3200 in MS67. So why does ICG have 29 of them when NGC and PCGS both been around at least a decade longer? No buyer is going to pay top dollar to then gamble on a cross over to NGC or PCGS. it's maybe a $20-$100 coin in MS67. If MS68 by PCGS or NGC, it's in the $1000s. ICG has graded 29 in MS68, and that's the problem. AN ICG graded MS68 of that year and mintmark is likely worth $20-$100 if they kept track of it. ICG has 30x the population of 1955 S MS68 that PCGS and NGC have combined. Maybe it's fairly graded, but maybe it's graded more lenient than NGC or PCGS would.[/QUOTE]
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