Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by CHARLES GINETTO, Feb 20, 2021.


    CHARLES GINETTO Active Member

    Which carries more authority from a coin buyer's view, a certificate of authenticity or a third party grading like PCGS?
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Certified coins but I don't always buy slabed coins
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Why the CAPS lock? COA is nice depending on what you are selling.
    This is kind of a loaded question. Grading by PCGS will make certain coins more liquid, but they also get authentication wrong.
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Anyone can make a COA on their computer.
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    CHARLES GINETTO Active Member

    Anyone can take a slab and do the same thing.
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    To me, a COA is of no value. A PCGS slab would be much more important.
  8. Silverpop

    Silverpop Well-Known Member

    just all depends on the item and market
  9. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect for 65 years

    Third party grading, hands down.
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  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Casual Collector / error expert "in Training "

  11. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    ^^^I see what I'm missing
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  12. MIGuy

    MIGuy Supporter! Supporter

    I'd say a slab from any of the big 4 - PCGS, NGC, ICG or ANACS proves authenticity and gives you a very good idea of the grade, if it's not dead on (which it usually is). A COA? Maybe if it's from Sotheby's, but in general, as others have noted, you can print one on your computer. THIS MESSAGE IS AUTHENTIC - Certificate of Authenticity guaranteed...
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  13. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    I wouldn’t pay to slab anything under $100 in possible value
    If already slabbed, I’d only pay raw value
    Buy the coin, not the container
    Over $200 needs TPG, COA holds little weight for most coins
  14. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    The overwhelming majority of most COA's are as worthless as the paper they're printed on.
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  15. Thomas R Reynolds

    Thomas R Reynolds Active Member

    At coin shows you can buy a lot of empty COA boxes with the COA letter with them. Very useless.
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  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    There are a couple of sellers on ebay offering empty coin cases some with COA. As stated, purchase the coin not the hype.
  17. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    How many people can afford the equipment and materials to make a realistic PCGS slab? You can go into many public libraries and use their computer equipment for free.
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  18. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector Supporter

    And a TPG slab not only authenticates a coin but also indicates whether it's been damaged or tampered with.
    And of course there is the grade.
  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    With the more modern stuff, some collectors want the original box and cert. Nothing wrong with that. Not important to me but some have to have it. We all collect in different ways.
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    TPG grading. As was said, anybody could print a certificate of authenticity on their computer in 2 minutes.
  21. harrync

    harrync Well-Known Member

    What I love is when the BEP includes a COA with an intaglio print. Really, I doubt that anyone who can successfully fake a security-printer's intaglio will have trouble with faking an offset printed COA. And as was mentioned above, you can buy COA's on eBay. The only value of a COA is what Idhair said: Some people want complete original packing.
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