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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;TIF, post: 3710134, member: 56859&quot;]Hmm.&nbsp; Perhaps I missed some important point in this thread?&nbsp; I thought the original post had morphed into a discussion of whether or not Leu uses insight into their customers&#039; maximum bids to drive the hammer to someone&#039;s max.&nbsp; I am definitely interested in learning more about this but wonder if such a conversation should be taken to the private message section, in case the fears are unfounded.&nbsp; It is possible to have a large number of people included in one private conversation group.&nbsp; Just a thought <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.&nbsp; &nbsp; Meanwhile, please let me know in what way my post was irrelevant.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Technically... 2/5 times, although if someone on the inside were to manipulate bids, it wouldn&#039;t have made sense to increase the others (or in some circumstances, it wouldn&#039;t be possible).</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps the lots I <i>didn&#039;t</i> win are more relevant?&nbsp; This one, for instance:</p><p><br /></p><p>Starting price: 75 CHF</p><p>Hammer price: 500 CHF</p><p>Your maximum bid: 480 CHF</p><p>Number of bids: 6 Bids</p><p><br /></p><p>It hammered for one increment above my max.&nbsp; Here&#039;s the expanded view of the bids:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Closing time:&nbsp; 24-Jun-18, 17:12:00 CEST</b></p><p><b>Bidder&nbsp; &nbsp; Bid amount&nbsp; &nbsp; Bid time</b></p><p>Bidder 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 500 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; <b><span style="color: #ff0000">31-May-18 13:10:20</span></b></p><p>(me)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 480 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; <b><span style="color: #0000ff">24-Jun-18 17:11:50</span></b></p><p>Bidder 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 300 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 19-Jun-18 23:06:03</p><p>Bidder 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 110 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 31-May-18 13:43:21</p><p>Bidder 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 80 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 31-May-18 13:09:46</p><p>Bidder 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 75 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 30-May-18 20:27:25</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe it&#039;s easier to digest with the bids arranged chronologically:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Closing time:&nbsp; 24-Jun-18, 17:12:00 CEST</b></p><p><b>Bidder&nbsp; &nbsp; Bid amount&nbsp; &nbsp; Bid time</b></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">(me)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 480 CHF&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></b> <b><span style="color: #0000ff">24-Jun-18 17:11:50 (ten seconds before closing)</span></b></p><p>Bidder 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 300 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 19-Jun-18 23:06:03</p><p>Bidder 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 110 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 31-May-18 13:43:21</p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">Bidder 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 500 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 31-May-18 13:10:20 (3+ weeks before closing)</span></b></p><p>Bidder 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 80 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 31-May-18 13:09:46</p><p>Bidder 1&nbsp; &nbsp; 75 CHF&nbsp; &nbsp; 30-May-18 20:27:25</p><p><br /></p><p>I wonder if Bidder 1 thought <b><i>I</i></b> was a shill?</p><p><br /></p><p>I really am interested in hearing others&#039; experience with Leu, complete with data but recommend a private group discussion though so as not to unfairly tar and feather Leu lest they are innocent of the accusations aired in this thread.&nbsp; If that data clearly shows a problem, then we could post it publicly.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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