CNG 106 tomorrow!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by panzerman, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Some really nifty coins in that auction. Can hardly wait to get home from work this evening around 8:00PM to check if I won my dream coins (2):nailbiting:! Had pretty good luck with recent Heritage Auction:happy: I will be sitting on "pins and needles" all day to check results when I get home....14 hrs from now.
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  3. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    I've already been blown out of the water on my main lot of interest. Though overall prices don't seem too extravagant

    Good luck!!
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  4. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Shhhh. Run silent, run deep.
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  5. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    okay, let me check if I can win some gold before the Germans do :))
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  6. TheRed

    TheRed Supporter! Supporter

    Good luck @panzerman I find myself in the company of @Nap watching a very rare Edward III half groat I really wanted climb to a price well above my bid. At least I don't have to worry about Clio.
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  7. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Me too. Only one lot I wanted and I already lost. Luckily its a common Cilicia stater, but this one had the nice toning I like. Ah well. They will come up again, and in the same grade and often in the electronic auctions they hammer for half the current price.

    I also agree, most lots seem to be fairly modest at the moment (a few minutes prior to closing).
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I know half a dozen people not bidding in this sale because they have better things to do with their money.... you know, Irma things. I do wonder how many lots will not sell to bidders that will not bid because they have no power or no home. I know the lots will sell but I doubt many sell in Florida or the Caribbean.
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  9. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Clio.jpg I just got Clio'ed on the fourree Athenian tetradrachm. I was underbidder.

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  10. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Supporter! Supporter

    I was beaten on my main lot. Alas...
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  11. Agricantus

    Agricantus Allium aflatunense

    Why do people still use mail bids? I saw quite a few of 'mailbidder*' in the cng auction. It looks like more hassle to fill in, mail, update...
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  12. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you have more to watch.

    I wanted the fourree. Probably good that I got Clio'ed in retrospect (34 minutes later) because I just took down another lot that I thought I would be outbid on. Didn't really budget for both coins......
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  13. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    You might be surprised at how many 'old folks' are still out there doing things the old fashioned way. True, 20 years from now (likely much sooner) this will not be the case.
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  14. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Well, it's never quite a CNG auction if you don't get Clio'ed at least once. Shame about that one, though... it's beautiful, in addition to being very cool.
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  15. 4to2centBC

    4to2centBC Well-Known Member

    Yes. It's a first for me. Like I said, mixed blessing. I liked the cool factor and it checked off a lot of boxes for me. I stomped on it at the end and was surprised to see that someone else was stomping simultaneously...but with a much bigger foot.

    However, I had placed a bid on a later lot and I did not know if I would win it. Not as cool, but I have been looking for a nice one of these for a decade (below.) I finally grabbed one. It cost me less than my high bid by several hundred, so I guess that is a win of sorts.

    I decided to live with a bit of a flat strike and that nick on the jaw, in order to get a well centered obv with a strong helmet and crest. I hope the toning is as good as they describe. I think it might be.
    Herak Lat comb.jpg
    IONIA, Herakleia ad Latmon. Circa 140-135 BC.

    AR Tetradrachm (31.5mm, 16.95 g, 9h). Stephanophoric type. Helmeted head of Athena right / Club; below, owl flanked by two monograms; all within oak wreath. Lavva, Silberpragung, Group I, 3 to 5 var. (V3/R [unlisted rev. die]); SNG von Aulock 1978; SNG Copenhagen ; BMC 71 (same dies). Near EF, attractively toned, area of flat strike. Ex Weil (22 January 2013), lot 15
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I was leading this morning on the one I wanted but ended up losing it by $1000 and the name Clio was not involved. Now I am relieved. If Clio did not want a coin, it must not have been worth having. ;)
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Fabulous! I really fancied this one as well, but most of the coins in this auction are above my pay grade. This one has much going for it... wonderful portrait, lovely toning, cute little owl...
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  18. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    No. It means he already has one, and likely better than the one you were looking at!
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  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana Supporter

    Heh, speaking of not worth having, my sole win so far has a sale record that includes three previous CNG auction appearances. I take comfort in the fact that my hammer is just slightly more than 50% of the highest it has recorded. Someone has to pick the crumbs off the floor, right? :shame:
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  20. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Exactly right. I have half a dozen coins for which there are online records showing prices double or more what I paid. I wish I had noted them as I discovered them. It would make a good thread.
    Anything is possible if you accept the premise that CNG does not know the term 'AU' (Apparently Unique).
    CNG 106, Lot: 451. Estimate $1000.

    ASIA MINOR, Uncertain. 5th century BC. AR Drachm or Hemistater (?) (19mm, 6.36 g). Uncertain standard. Chimaera standing right, raising forepaw, on dotted ground line / Rough incuse square. Unpublished, but cf. CNG 66, lot 401 and CNG E-210, lot 79 for possible staters from this same issue. Near EF, toned, granular surfaces, scrape on obverse. Apparently unique.

    I was curious what the market would do with a coin not in their books. Unknown place, unknown denomination, nothing is certain except the style. The most rare coins are the ones that do not exist.
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  21. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    I'm not sure what you mean Doug. Clearly none of the three coins are the same, just similar, and I am sure that is what they alluded to. Obviously they dont know what any of them are (and at least each cataloguer did his best to figure it out).

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