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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2987521, member: 112"]Yes, it is one of the theories put forward by some, but it is only a theory. But when you consider everything that is known, it becomes a rather unlikely theory. For example, how much improper rinsing can there be ? For the rinsing to be improper it means they are doing it wrong, so how often do you think they would be doing it wrong ? Also consider how common haze on modern Proofs is - and by modern I mean from the late 60's on. It is extremely common, so common that it can be argued that it happens more often than not. Which would mean they doing things wrong more often than not. And that just isn't very likely because the haze issue is and always has been very well known because it is so common. So it is logical that the mint would have taken steps to correct it. However, it's been going on for over 50 years and it still happens - a whole lot of the time.</p><p><br /></p><p>You also have to consider that the mint is constantly changing their rinse solutions as new products come out, as well as their rinse methodology, in an effort to either improve or speed things up. Throw that into the mix and it becomes even more unlikely that improper rinsing is causing the haze problem.</p><p><br /></p><p>What is far more likely is that haze is nothing more than the beginning stages of toning. And not caused by anything done or not done by the mint. Why ? Because it happens pretty much all the time, and has for 50 years or so. Even though there have been a multitude of changes made in the rinsing processes over that period of time.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then some will ask why did it change 50 years or so ago ? Why didn't it happen before that ? A valid question, but also one that has an answer - because that was about the same time when a huge change in packaging mint products came about. The change was from soft packaging to the hard plastic cases for Proof products. And that changed the way coins toned. And not only in the colors and depth of color produced, but the speed at which they were produced. With the hard packaging color came much more slowly and in different ways. This was because the new packaging helped protect the coins from the environment.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes it was similar but not the same. To see that all you have to do is look at them. Even small changes in the packaging produce different results in toning, and or the lack of it. And, you also have to consider the differences in the coins. And not just the alloy of the coins, but the luster of the coins. Morgan and Ikes have completely different kinds of luster. Each and every type of coin ever produced has its own unique type of luster. And it is the luster of each type of coin that determines the kind of toning those coins will have more than anything else. Two different types of coins, exactly identical packaging, kept in the exact same environment and stored in the exact same methods, you'll have two different kinds of toning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2987521, member: 112"]Yes, it is one of the theories put forward by some, but it is only a theory. But when you consider everything that is known, it becomes a rather unlikely theory. For example, how much improper rinsing can there be ? For the rinsing to be improper it means they are doing it wrong, so how often do you think they would be doing it wrong ? Also consider how common haze on modern Proofs is - and by modern I mean from the late 60's on. It is extremely common, so common that it can be argued that it happens more often than not. Which would mean they doing things wrong more often than not. And that just isn't very likely because the haze issue is and always has been very well known because it is so common. So it is logical that the mint would have taken steps to correct it. However, it's been going on for over 50 years and it still happens - a whole lot of the time. You also have to consider that the mint is constantly changing their rinse solutions as new products come out, as well as their rinse methodology, in an effort to either improve or speed things up. Throw that into the mix and it becomes even more unlikely that improper rinsing is causing the haze problem. What is far more likely is that haze is nothing more than the beginning stages of toning. And not caused by anything done or not done by the mint. Why ? Because it happens pretty much all the time, and has for 50 years or so. Even though there have been a multitude of changes made in the rinsing processes over that period of time. Then some will ask why did it change 50 years or so ago ? Why didn't it happen before that ? A valid question, but also one that has an answer - because that was about the same time when a huge change in packaging mint products came about. The change was from soft packaging to the hard plastic cases for Proof products. And that changed the way coins toned. And not only in the colors and depth of color produced, but the speed at which they were produced. With the hard packaging color came much more slowly and in different ways. This was because the new packaging helped protect the coins from the environment. Yes it was similar but not the same. To see that all you have to do is look at them. Even small changes in the packaging produce different results in toning, and or the lack of it. And, you also have to consider the differences in the coins. And not just the alloy of the coins, but the luster of the coins. Morgan and Ikes have completely different kinds of luster. Each and every type of coin ever produced has its own unique type of luster. And it is the luster of each type of coin that determines the kind of toning those coins will have more than anything else. Two different types of coins, exactly identical packaging, kept in the exact same environment and stored in the exact same methods, you'll have two different kinds of toning.[/QUOTE]
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