Clothes with saw-like edge

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Jochen1, Nov 27, 2023.

  1. Jochen1

    Jochen1 Well-Known Member

    Dear friends of ancient coins!

    We discussed this problem several years ago, but without achieving a satisfactory result. Now I have rediscovered it and am starting a new attempt. Many depictions of provincial coins from northern Greece show garments with a saw-like edge, as on this coin from Nicopolis. Does anyone have any idea what this is?
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    Thank you for any answer
    Jochen
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    No idea. Sorry.
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  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

  5. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Yes, I remember at least one such thread, and I recall being satisfied with the answer, but I can no longer remember where or what...

    Several possibilities come to mind. My vote would be the first, below (although she seems to be wearing it more as a belt around the waist)

    Here is a male wearing something similar in a sculpture from 5th cent. Cyprus, with this description from Getty images:
    "A himation, with diagonal folds, is draped over the left shoulder and forms small zigzags on the vertical edge":​
    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/...ss-male-votary-in-greek-news-photo/1198412641
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    Another possibility is that it is the die-cutters' representation of the folds often shown on the far edge of the himation (?), as often shown on sculpture/friezes:
    https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/253483
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    Here is a modern representation, illustrating the folded decoration at the margin of the garment:
    https://kimmygutierrezart2130.wordpress.com/2016/09/15/greek-himation-dress/
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    For a numismatic example of the latter two, here is the Diana/Artemis on my "Dreadlocked Gallia" denarius of Hostilius Saserna:
    Dreadlocked_Gallia_R_IMG_1426-removebg-preview-E.png CONSERVATORI-Hostilius Saserna AR Denarius Dreadlocked Gallia DRAFT 2-B.png
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2023
  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    For what it's worth (probably not much), the mantle worn by St John Baptist on this florin is described as "sheep skin mantle"

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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I never saw the original thread but looking at your coin the first thing that I thought of was the person is wearing a train or a pleated garment and this was how it was depicted on coins.
     
  8. -monolith-

    -monolith- Supporter! Supporter

    It looks like a stylized version of the folds in the garment like these coins of Gordian III:

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