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<p>[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 3091272, member: 44316"]In February I started a thread on how some eBay fakes are detected:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-we-detect-fakes.311907/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-we-detect-fakes.311907/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-we-detect-fakes.311907/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I mentioned </p><p>"Another way we catch fakes is my noticing two identical coins. That is, identical except possibly for recently applied surfaces. Ancient coins were struck by hand. No two have exactly the same strike, flan flaws, and centering. If you can find two coins that are identical in enough ways, they are likely both cast fakes"</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is an example of what I meant. However this time they were not discovered on-line, rather in hand when inspecting a large group of low-value coins assembled over twenty years ago. I like the "hand-of-God" type so I pulled these two (and there were other clones in the group too.)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]780087[/ATTACH] </p><p>Individually these two look pretty good. However, in this image you can look at them together and see flan cracks or dings at 3:00 and 11:00 and 5:30 on the obverse of each, 4:00 on the reverse of each. Everything matches up too except the applied "earthen" cover (and even that is pretty similar on both).</p><p><br /></p><p>The coins show the typical mushy weakness of casts. But being clones is conclusive.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fakes!</p><p><br /></p><p>Do you have some black-cabinet fakes to show us?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Valentinian, post: 3091272, member: 44316"]In February I started a thread on how some eBay fakes are detected: [url]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/how-we-detect-fakes.311907/[/url] I mentioned "Another way we catch fakes is my noticing two identical coins. That is, identical except possibly for recently applied surfaces. Ancient coins were struck by hand. No two have exactly the same strike, flan flaws, and centering. If you can find two coins that are identical in enough ways, they are likely both cast fakes" Here is an example of what I meant. However this time they were not discovered on-line, rather in hand when inspecting a large group of low-value coins assembled over twenty years ago. I like the "hand-of-God" type so I pulled these two (and there were other clones in the group too.) [ATTACH=full]780087[/ATTACH] Individually these two look pretty good. However, in this image you can look at them together and see flan cracks or dings at 3:00 and 11:00 and 5:30 on the obverse of each, 4:00 on the reverse of each. Everything matches up too except the applied "earthen" cover (and even that is pretty similar on both). The coins show the typical mushy weakness of casts. But being clones is conclusive. Fakes! Do you have some black-cabinet fakes to show us?[/QUOTE]
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