Cleopatra & Mark Antony

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  1. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    So Cleo was a little white girl with red hair. Hmmm
     
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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Sounds like quite a bargain.
     
  4. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Do Macedonians not ever have red hair?
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Alexander the Great reputedly had blonde/reddish hair.
     
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  6. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    I must admit I don't know
     
  7. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    My Cleo & Tony:

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    Phil Davis
     
  8. Andrew McCabe

    Andrew McCabe Well-Known Member

    My examples of both types. One a bit worn. The denarius purchased at the Hotel Drouot in Paris, 1997, from an Alan Weil auction of an old French collection
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Ramses II had red hair too
     
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  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Indeed! I've seen the photos of his unwrapped mummy showing his red hair.
     
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  11. Tony1982

    Tony1982 Well-Known Member

    Very nice,I only have a budget Antony and Octavia
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  12. jdmKY

    jdmKY Well-Known Member

    FCE4F296-E452-4A66-B400-661826DDA841.jpeg Another style of Antony and Octavia
    Silver cistophorus - Ephesus
    39 BC

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  13. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    Bet you didn't know someone had a brownie camera back then
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  14. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    or perhaps
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    she married 2 of her brothers, did she also marry her son ? And was her mother also her Aunt ? WOW what a family
     
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  15. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I hear that she was her own grandmother!
     
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  16. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    You both beat me too this. I’ll add that in ancient Egypt people with red hair where popularly associated with the worship of Set (who was interestingly though of as the “evil god”). The name of Ramasis’ father Seti means “of Set” and their family was probably associated with this god on account of their red hair.

    As to Cleopatra this painting from Pompeii shows her with red hair. Many of her portraits statues (such as the one posted above) show traces of red pigment. She was probably a red headed Macedonian.
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  17. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    How was this painting identified as Cleopatra? Because it looks like her portrayals on coins, or for some other reason?
     
  18. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    I’m not sure all the reasons or how certain the identification is (like many IDs) but I think the features are part of it, along with the royal diadem and probably the context it was found (would have to look up those details to know how strong the case is).

    Also I was mistaken above it was found at Herculaneum and not Pompeii (which is a fabulous place to visit if you get a chance).
     
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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  20. Dialupsux

    Dialupsux Well-Known Member

    I think i messed up this post but anyway
    I shouldn't open my mouth but I think he was Egyptian while Cleo might have been born in Egypt but was Macedonian. Now perhaps there was that Egyptian milkman that kept hanging around ... I was told that's where red hair came from
     
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  21. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Back in my day, the milkman walked all the way from Egypt to deliver milk in Canopus jars. You kids don’t know what it was like
     
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