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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 446955, member: 15309"]WOW! Toning is inherently natural. Silver is not inert and nature causes it to react with the atmosphere which results in toning. You call it damage, I call it the beauty of nature's work. </p><p><br /></p><p>The only reason that toning should reduce the grade of a coin is if it negatively affects the eye appeal of the coin. Toning is not considered an element of grade. Eye appeal is, and toning can have either a positive (rainbow toned), neutral (most toning), or negative (black or mottled) effect on eye appeal.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you think that toned coins are not worth a premium, then don't pay it. If you think they shouldn't be slabbed because they are damaged, then I want you to consider this. If you find a silver coin that is over 100 years old without any noticeable patina, then you are probably looking at a coin that has been dipped. IMO, dipping is a form of cleaning. If you can determine that a coin has been dipped (cleaned), that is a legitimate reason to body bag a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your post is just another example of your ignorance of the subtleties of numismatics. The problem is that you present yourself as an expert which every seasoned collector on this board has already knows is far from the truth. However, because you are so dogmatic and forceful in your statements, it is entirely possible that some forum members without the experience to know better may actually believe the <span style="color: Red">edited</span> statements that you make with astounding frequency. I will make it my personal goal to refute and expose every <span style="color: red">edited</span> statement that you post for what it is. I will do this so that the YN's on this forum can be led in the right direction.</p><p><br /></p><p>PS. Take the bet![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 446955, member: 15309"]WOW! Toning is inherently natural. Silver is not inert and nature causes it to react with the atmosphere which results in toning. You call it damage, I call it the beauty of nature's work. The only reason that toning should reduce the grade of a coin is if it negatively affects the eye appeal of the coin. Toning is not considered an element of grade. Eye appeal is, and toning can have either a positive (rainbow toned), neutral (most toning), or negative (black or mottled) effect on eye appeal. If you think that toned coins are not worth a premium, then don't pay it. If you think they shouldn't be slabbed because they are damaged, then I want you to consider this. If you find a silver coin that is over 100 years old without any noticeable patina, then you are probably looking at a coin that has been dipped. IMO, dipping is a form of cleaning. If you can determine that a coin has been dipped (cleaned), that is a legitimate reason to body bag a coin. Your post is just another example of your ignorance of the subtleties of numismatics. The problem is that you present yourself as an expert which every seasoned collector on this board has already knows is far from the truth. However, because you are so dogmatic and forceful in your statements, it is entirely possible that some forum members without the experience to know better may actually believe the [COLOR="Red"]edited[/COLOR] statements that you make with astounding frequency. I will make it my personal goal to refute and expose every [COLOR="red"]edited[/COLOR] statement that you post for what it is. I will do this so that the YN's on this forum can be led in the right direction. PS. Take the bet![/QUOTE]
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