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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 444722, member: 15309"]Ruben,</p><p><br /></p><p>Are you saying that the majority of the 70's have been submitted multiple times in order to achieve their maximum grade and are actually low end for the grade and should be in 69 holders. Therefore if they were resubmitted, the probability would be that they would be downgraded to their appropriate grade. If you are that would be an new twist on your ever changing rant.</p><p><br /></p><p>You first stated that the graders really can't tell and just flip a coin to decide. Are you now saying that they are actually applying a standard which they themselves disagree upon which accounts for the inability to achieve repeatable results?</p><p><br /></p><p>I know you won't respond to my post, but maybe someone else could pose my question to you.</p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW, I very much doubt the most moderns are being submitted multiple times in order to achieve a bump from 69 to 70. The price difference for most issues is too small to warrant the effort. The crackout game is usually applied to conditional rarities where there is a huge price jump from grade to grade. The 1934-D Peace Dollar from MS64 to MS65 comes to my mind immediately. The 1934-D jumps from $600 to $1800 from MS64 to MS65 make it very worthwhile to seek out PQ MS64 coins and resubmit them several times until the coin is graded MS65.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another coin that would qualify would be the start of this mess. The 1977-S Proof IKE. I am positive that many have tried to resubmit their PF69's hoping for a 70. Look how well it worked for them, the count stands at 13.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 444722, member: 15309"]Ruben, Are you saying that the majority of the 70's have been submitted multiple times in order to achieve their maximum grade and are actually low end for the grade and should be in 69 holders. Therefore if they were resubmitted, the probability would be that they would be downgraded to their appropriate grade. If you are that would be an new twist on your ever changing rant. You first stated that the graders really can't tell and just flip a coin to decide. Are you now saying that they are actually applying a standard which they themselves disagree upon which accounts for the inability to achieve repeatable results? I know you won't respond to my post, but maybe someone else could pose my question to you. FWIW, I very much doubt the most moderns are being submitted multiple times in order to achieve a bump from 69 to 70. The price difference for most issues is too small to warrant the effort. The crackout game is usually applied to conditional rarities where there is a huge price jump from grade to grade. The 1934-D Peace Dollar from MS64 to MS65 comes to my mind immediately. The 1934-D jumps from $600 to $1800 from MS64 to MS65 make it very worthwhile to seek out PQ MS64 coins and resubmit them several times until the coin is graded MS65. Another coin that would qualify would be the start of this mess. The 1977-S Proof IKE. I am positive that many have tried to resubmit their PF69's hoping for a 70. Look how well it worked for them, the count stands at 13.[/QUOTE]
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