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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mrbrklyn, post: 569880, member: 4381&quot;]<a href="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t49163-3/#post545127" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t49163-3/#post545127">http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t49163-3/#post545127</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, its really simpler than that.&nbsp; You shouldn&#039;t clean your coins. Your a novice and any other advise would be wreckless. People are trying to do you a favor here and save you some heartache. Don&#039;t pull on SUperman&#039;s cape. Don&#039;t spit into the wind, you don&#039;t pull the mask of the ole Long Ranger and you don&#039;t clean your coins.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Everyone here has given you variations of the same answer. And this is not the first time cointalk has been around the block on this topic.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But here are some facts to consider. First, I doubt you could tell if a coin was cleaned, cleaned harshly, or done professionally, or never done at all. That means you can&#039;t judge the outcome of your work. You would have no clue as to whether you properly conserved your coin or destroyed it. Secondly, Conservation is done for a reason. Either there is some damage to a valuable piece (verdis), it might have awful black or striped toning, or like Jim, you just like to experiment with junk coins to gain the experience. However, any coin is best never cleaned if it remains in an reasonably good condition. ALL CLEANING removes part of the surface of the coin. That surface might also be oxidized and ugly to the point where conservation is warranted. Even Leonardo&#039;s &quot;Last Supper&quot; has had conservation. But that needs to be an educated decision and some consultation is worth having before attempting it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You mentioned that dealers have &quot;coin presses&quot;. If your friend told you this, 40 years or not in the hobby, he is wrong to the point of absurdity. According to Zane, some of the TPG and highest level dealers do dip coins, semi-regularly. Its not a great practice, even for those with broadly recognized expertise in the matter. Almost NO DEALERS dip coins regularly and the trend is going way down since in the 21st century we&#039;ve learned just how much damage this does to the coins and even today we have many many collectors like Paul who love toned coins.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But most of all, your under the misconception that this is a simple thing to learn to do well, and can be picked up quickly. I hate to break it to you, but it is not either an easy body of knowledge to master, nor can it be picked up in a few minutes on Coin Talk. If your going to clean your coins, your going to lose a lot of nice specimens along the way, without doubt.&nbsp; As Spock said, &quot;Clean in hast, regret it at leisure.&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>There are no secret handshakes going on here. People are trying to protect you from a grievous error. Lets try this, since your so confident in this matter. Which of these coins have been damaged by cleaning</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/1836_cap_bust_obv.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/halfs/columbia_reverse_sm.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/clean1.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized %1%2.<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/clean2.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized %1%2.<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/clean3.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized %1%2.<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/clean4.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;<img src="http://www.cointalk.com/forum/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized %1%2.<img src="http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/coins/clean5.png" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I&#039;ll tell you this much. Most of the folks trying to help you here, people you have been biting in the hand, would know with a quick examination.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Ruben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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