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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jody526, post: 23080, member: 578&quot;]Guess you&#039;re misreading my post, Ben.</p><p>I said that toning is <b>not</b>&nbsp; likely to wash off with plain water.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, there is more to &quot;originality&quot; and &quot;patina&quot;, than just toning.</p><p><br /></p><p>When you&#039;re coins became brighter, and seemed to jump out, due to the high pressure steam, that was due to alteration. Something natural was removed by mechanical means.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can assure you that I have looked at many coins that have sat, untouched, for years, and I have looked at many others that have been washed. They do indeed look different, and the difference is very noticable.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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