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<p>[QUOTE="clembo, post: 499779, member: 8033"]I acually think most of us are in the real world and know that a lot of cleaning goes on.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have rarely cleaned coins from my personal collection. The harshest treatment those got was Blue Ribbon. I started a thread on it WAY back and met some harsh criticism. I only used it because both of my local dealers used it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I work for one of those dealers and, yes, Blue Ribbon is used on copper and nickel on occasion. Acetone is used as well and silver does get a dip at times. I might note that a lot of dipped coins go to NGC or PCGS where they get slabbed. So yes it does happen.</p><p><br /></p><p>However I do not suggest it to those entering the hobby and I haven't gone on a "cleaning binge" since I actually started working in a shop.</p><p>Now that I'm there I have a tendency to buy a nice, "ugly" coin and leave it as it is. Totally original and I get first look on many occasions.</p><p><br /></p><p>Conversely I have become somewhat adept at cleaning coins. This is not a "goal" of mine. It's a job. They are not my coins and it takes practice and I can't honestly tell you what any coin might look like in 20 years. Some I just refuse to touch as it only takes one little mistake to DEVALUE a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>As of late I've been restoring Buffalo nickels for fun. I've found some good dates. I've sold some actually but with the understanding that I have chemically altered these coins. I sell them cheap.</p><p><br /></p><p>So there are many ways to look at this whole picture. I haven't cleaned a coin of my own for ages in any way. I clean them at work when asked (most times) but I do NOT recommend it to anyone.</p><p><br /></p><p>Think about it. A coin starts to look decent and patina is still evident. Well, a novice will want to make it look better. More work can kill a beautiful coin. I've killed a few "commons" myself. That's how I've learned and they weren't my coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>You say your methods are safe but how safe are they to the beginner? What are the long term effects?</p><p><br /></p><p>I think I've lain out some pretty good reasons to NOT encourage cleaning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="clembo, post: 499779, member: 8033"]I acually think most of us are in the real world and know that a lot of cleaning goes on. I have rarely cleaned coins from my personal collection. The harshest treatment those got was Blue Ribbon. I started a thread on it WAY back and met some harsh criticism. I only used it because both of my local dealers used it. Now I work for one of those dealers and, yes, Blue Ribbon is used on copper and nickel on occasion. Acetone is used as well and silver does get a dip at times. I might note that a lot of dipped coins go to NGC or PCGS where they get slabbed. So yes it does happen. However I do not suggest it to those entering the hobby and I haven't gone on a "cleaning binge" since I actually started working in a shop. Now that I'm there I have a tendency to buy a nice, "ugly" coin and leave it as it is. Totally original and I get first look on many occasions. Conversely I have become somewhat adept at cleaning coins. This is not a "goal" of mine. It's a job. They are not my coins and it takes practice and I can't honestly tell you what any coin might look like in 20 years. Some I just refuse to touch as it only takes one little mistake to DEVALUE a coin. As of late I've been restoring Buffalo nickels for fun. I've found some good dates. I've sold some actually but with the understanding that I have chemically altered these coins. I sell them cheap. So there are many ways to look at this whole picture. I haven't cleaned a coin of my own for ages in any way. I clean them at work when asked (most times) but I do NOT recommend it to anyone. Think about it. A coin starts to look decent and patina is still evident. Well, a novice will want to make it look better. More work can kill a beautiful coin. I've killed a few "commons" myself. That's how I've learned and they weren't my coins. You say your methods are safe but how safe are they to the beginner? What are the long term effects? I think I've lain out some pretty good reasons to NOT encourage cleaning.[/QUOTE]
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