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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1074116, member: 27832"]First one: yes, I found and read the thread. I've known since my days as a YN that cleaning coins is generally a bad idea, and that you don't wipe proofs. I started this thread to ask for more specific advice, in a situation where leaving the coins untouched is likely to lead to further deterioration.</p><p><br /></p><p>Second: yes, I found and read the thread. I'm not planning on sending a circulated Kennedy proof or a 1907 IHC to NCS. I understand something about the physics of ultrasonic cleaning and cavitation damage; I don't think my ultrasonic cleaner is beefy enough to easily cause that kind of damage, but I'd certainly try it on low-value coins first. (If you consider an XF/AU 1907 IHC "higher value" in the first place.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Third: I found this thread soon after I joined the site. I particularly enjoyed the "bleach and ammonia" bit. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I see talk about Verdi-Care, but without knowing exactly what chemicals are involved, I'm uneasy about using a product that claims to "permanently bond" to the coin's surface.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's where I'm coming from. I was an avid collector in childhood, decades ago, and I've internalized most of the lessons one teaches YNs -- don't clean, don't handle by surfaces, etc. I've got a pretty strong background in chemistry and general lab technique. I've also got some physics background, including handling optics that are considerably more fragile than coin surfaces. I <i>don't</i> have specific experience conserving coins -- as I said, the lesson I learned early on was "just don't" -- but as I look at what's wrong with the examples above, it seems like it would be possible to fix the problems. I'm looking for advice from people who've done it successfully. And, even better, from people who've attempted it UNsuccessfully. It's good to learn from your mistakes, but it's better to learn from other people's mistakes. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1074116, member: 27832"]First one: yes, I found and read the thread. I've known since my days as a YN that cleaning coins is generally a bad idea, and that you don't wipe proofs. I started this thread to ask for more specific advice, in a situation where leaving the coins untouched is likely to lead to further deterioration. Second: yes, I found and read the thread. I'm not planning on sending a circulated Kennedy proof or a 1907 IHC to NCS. I understand something about the physics of ultrasonic cleaning and cavitation damage; I don't think my ultrasonic cleaner is beefy enough to easily cause that kind of damage, but I'd certainly try it on low-value coins first. (If you consider an XF/AU 1907 IHC "higher value" in the first place.) Third: I found this thread soon after I joined the site. I particularly enjoyed the "bleach and ammonia" bit. :) I see talk about Verdi-Care, but without knowing exactly what chemicals are involved, I'm uneasy about using a product that claims to "permanently bond" to the coin's surface. Here's where I'm coming from. I was an avid collector in childhood, decades ago, and I've internalized most of the lessons one teaches YNs -- don't clean, don't handle by surfaces, etc. I've got a pretty strong background in chemistry and general lab technique. I've also got some physics background, including handling optics that are considerably more fragile than coin surfaces. I [I]don't[/I] have specific experience conserving coins -- as I said, the lesson I learned early on was "just don't" -- but as I look at what's wrong with the examples above, it seems like it would be possible to fix the problems. I'm looking for advice from people who've done it successfully. And, even better, from people who've attempted it UNsuccessfully. It's good to learn from your mistakes, but it's better to learn from other people's mistakes. :)[/QUOTE]
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