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Message:: [QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 787896, member: 16510"]This subject will never, ever go away as most everthing is This subject will never, ever go away as most everthing regarding the subject is a matter of opinion or preference or the old adage "this is how I learned".  Always (as all things are) full of truth, lies, misconceptions, rumors etc. Here's the truth as far as I know it: People with less than 5 years should never attempt to clean any coin with above bullion value in any manner.People with less than five years will attempt this no matter what we say here.Coin cleaning can be done with improvement/preservation by very knowledgable people.People without that knowledge will ruin coins as we speak.At least half of the Morgan dollars in slabs have been dipped.No one thinks it to be their coins that are the ones that have been dipped.Most dealers I know (99% of 100 or more) will dip coins on occasion.All dealers tell customers not to ever dip or clean coins.Copper cannot be dipped with success (that I know of).Copper can be re-toned or colured sometimes with amazing results by the most unlikely agents.Silver is the easiest to dip, gold second (it rarely needs it) and copper impossible. The most important thing we can tell new people is to change the adage  - instead of saying "oh we don't clean coins or it ruins a coin" we should say "look, a coin only has 1 original surface or skin and it only has that surface if untouched, rubbed or in any way changed from the day it left the mint".  "If your lucky you have one of those coins with original skin or surface intact".  "What you do or do not do could change or leave original that coin for the rest of time".Keep that in mind before you ever think it needs any additional treatment to it and then wait 5 years.[/QUOTE]

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