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<p>[QUOTE="Cherd, post: 3048338, member: 24754"]I agree with everything that you said entirely. Even the parts where you insinuate that I was making uninformed assumptions, I was. I presented arguments using extreme over-generalizations. This is done because that's the easiest way to get the point across (admittedly, kind of lazy on my part). But, it's also done with the anticipation that someone will thoughtfully, politely, and comprehensively address the faulty assumptions. Unfortunately, that's generally not the case in these forums. When people immediately jump to insults, sarcasm, and other false demonstrations of self-assumed superiority, then the conversation goes nowhere. I'm certainly not saying that [USER=112]@GDJMSP[/USER] is unique in having been productive in the conversation, but his posts serve as good examples of a more effective way of doing things.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't take these things personally, as I mentioned before, I just enjoy a good discussion. However, it is worth mentioning that a private message discussion with [USER=33176]@Kentucky[/USER] has helped put the occurrences of this particular thread in perspective. He pointed out that the topic of cleaning is contentious in general, largely because it's been addressed from every angle so many times in these forums that's it's "played out" in the minds of those that have been around for a while. From that perspective, it's somewhat understandable that people would tend to be short. We just have to keep in mind that "newbies" don't have that perspective, and could get the wrong idea.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cherd, post: 3048338, member: 24754"]I agree with everything that you said entirely. Even the parts where you insinuate that I was making uninformed assumptions, I was. I presented arguments using extreme over-generalizations. This is done because that's the easiest way to get the point across (admittedly, kind of lazy on my part). But, it's also done with the anticipation that someone will thoughtfully, politely, and comprehensively address the faulty assumptions. Unfortunately, that's generally not the case in these forums. When people immediately jump to insults, sarcasm, and other false demonstrations of self-assumed superiority, then the conversation goes nowhere. I'm certainly not saying that [USER=112]@GDJMSP[/USER] is unique in having been productive in the conversation, but his posts serve as good examples of a more effective way of doing things. I don't take these things personally, as I mentioned before, I just enjoy a good discussion. However, it is worth mentioning that a private message discussion with [USER=33176]@Kentucky[/USER] has helped put the occurrences of this particular thread in perspective. He pointed out that the topic of cleaning is contentious in general, largely because it's been addressed from every angle so many times in these forums that's it's "played out" in the minds of those that have been around for a while. From that perspective, it's somewhat understandable that people would tend to be short. We just have to keep in mind that "newbies" don't have that perspective, and could get the wrong idea.[/QUOTE]
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