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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 761758, member: 112"]Think it all you want, doesn't mean it isn't true. And keep in mind, I am not the only person saying this. Go ask Dave Bowers, Jeff Garrett, Ron Guth, any coin expert you care to think of - they will all tell you the same thing I am telling you. You might also want to keep in mind that protecting your coins is a new thing. It has only been in recent years that not cleaning your coins has become the accepted thing to do. Up until the 1980's coins were routinely cleaned by collectors. Cleaning coins was the accepted thing to do. There were countless books that advocated cleaning your coins, countless commercial coin cleaners sold over the counter and through the mail. The vast majority of coin collectors DID CLEAN their coins. And that is why 80% of all older coins have at the least been dipped. And why 80% of all older, raw coins are today considered to be problem coins, many of them due to harsh and improper cleaning. Even still today such notable museums as the Smithsonian Institution cleans their coins ! They literally get a cloth and polish them up. People have watched them doing it. They, the Smithsonian, will admit it to you if you ask them. So I'm sorry dayriser, but you are mistaken in your beliefs. But you're welcome to go right believing them if you wish.[/QUOTE]