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<p>[QUOTE="trogdor, post: 753184, member: 21943"]At the risk of unleashing the wrath of all collectors everywhere, I will share my experiences:</p><p><br /></p><p>First, I have only cleaned very low grade, cull, or heavily circulated copper coins. I have no experience with anything else. I love to purchase cull coppers at extremely low premiums and have been through well over 100k wheats (circulated, cull, and otherwise) Even so, I am FAR from an expert so please regard me as a crazy novice who has no clue what he's talking about <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>I've found that a bath in warm water will take off a fair amount of dirt by itself. I do this by dumping a few hundred beat up coins in a pot of warm water, letting it sit for a while (a few hours), stirring, rinsing, and repeating as long as the water gets discolored. This has made unreadable coins readable more times than I can remember. Be sure to let air dry afterwards.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the coins that still are too dirty for my tastes, I'll include baking soda in the pot of water to help loosen dirt, stir, rinse, repeat as above. After the baking soda process I always rinse in clean water, then in alcohol, then let air dry on a soft cloth. This takes time, but IMO is worth it.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the coins that I still feel need help, I will take a soft toothbrush and rub in a circular pattern to remove dirt. I hate doing this, and will usually only do so until I can make out a date and/or legends. A q-tip also works. Its a long process, especially if you ave a lot of coins to clean. Afterwards I rinse and let air dry. FYI I don't do this on any coin I really care about. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now for methods I've tried and don't recommend:</p><p><br /></p><p>An ultrasonic jewelry cleaner - I've used this with plain warm water and baking soda & water. I used a cheapo version but saw no difference between this and just soaking in water and stirring. </p><p><br /></p><p>Toothpick/dried thorn/other sharp tool - these don't really work to remove the crud thats on my coins unless I'm willing to scratch them :/</p><p><br /></p><p>Vinegar/lemon juice/other acids - even diluted 20:1 acids always produce a horrible color for me</p><p><br /></p><p>Soaking in olive oil - while this method HAS worked on some coins, however the process is way too slow for my tastes (months) and has to be combined with the toothbrush method above. </p><p><br /></p><p>Abrasive rubbing - this method sure gets dirt off quickly but at a definite cost to the surfaces of the coin. Not worth it IMO.</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as removing verdigris/corrosion nothing I have tried will work without ruining the coin or revealing an extremely unattractive surface. My goal in cleaning coins is only to remove dirt, grime, grease not corrosion or verdigris.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my process of cleaning coins I have ruined a fair number. I think my worst casuality was a 1909 vdb that might have been a decent filler in someones collection had I not totally removed the natural color. I've ruined a good number of 20 - 30 cents wheaties as well. A few IHCs that I couldn't make out a date on might have made some young numismatist happy before I got to them. I say this because I understand that in my process of cleaning coins I have ruined many as well. I'd like to think that the ones I have cleaned are better off for it though.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hope this helps, and sorry for any that I offend!</p><p><br /></p><p>Ben[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="trogdor, post: 753184, member: 21943"]At the risk of unleashing the wrath of all collectors everywhere, I will share my experiences: First, I have only cleaned very low grade, cull, or heavily circulated copper coins. I have no experience with anything else. I love to purchase cull coppers at extremely low premiums and have been through well over 100k wheats (circulated, cull, and otherwise) Even so, I am FAR from an expert so please regard me as a crazy novice who has no clue what he's talking about :) I've found that a bath in warm water will take off a fair amount of dirt by itself. I do this by dumping a few hundred beat up coins in a pot of warm water, letting it sit for a while (a few hours), stirring, rinsing, and repeating as long as the water gets discolored. This has made unreadable coins readable more times than I can remember. Be sure to let air dry afterwards. For the coins that still are too dirty for my tastes, I'll include baking soda in the pot of water to help loosen dirt, stir, rinse, repeat as above. After the baking soda process I always rinse in clean water, then in alcohol, then let air dry on a soft cloth. This takes time, but IMO is worth it. For the coins that I still feel need help, I will take a soft toothbrush and rub in a circular pattern to remove dirt. I hate doing this, and will usually only do so until I can make out a date and/or legends. A q-tip also works. Its a long process, especially if you ave a lot of coins to clean. Afterwards I rinse and let air dry. FYI I don't do this on any coin I really care about. Now for methods I've tried and don't recommend: An ultrasonic jewelry cleaner - I've used this with plain warm water and baking soda & water. I used a cheapo version but saw no difference between this and just soaking in water and stirring. Toothpick/dried thorn/other sharp tool - these don't really work to remove the crud thats on my coins unless I'm willing to scratch them :/ Vinegar/lemon juice/other acids - even diluted 20:1 acids always produce a horrible color for me Soaking in olive oil - while this method HAS worked on some coins, however the process is way too slow for my tastes (months) and has to be combined with the toothbrush method above. Abrasive rubbing - this method sure gets dirt off quickly but at a definite cost to the surfaces of the coin. Not worth it IMO. As far as removing verdigris/corrosion nothing I have tried will work without ruining the coin or revealing an extremely unattractive surface. My goal in cleaning coins is only to remove dirt, grime, grease not corrosion or verdigris. In my process of cleaning coins I have ruined a fair number. I think my worst casuality was a 1909 vdb that might have been a decent filler in someones collection had I not totally removed the natural color. I've ruined a good number of 20 - 30 cents wheaties as well. A few IHCs that I couldn't make out a date on might have made some young numismatist happy before I got to them. I say this because I understand that in my process of cleaning coins I have ruined many as well. I'd like to think that the ones I have cleaned are better off for it though. Hope this helps, and sorry for any that I offend! Ben[/QUOTE]
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