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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2370319, member: 112&quot;]I&#039;m not suggesting you could do it in &quot;one smooth stroke&quot;, to the contrary, just like you, I know it could not be done. However, I also know that when a die gets grease on it, and we all acknowledge that dies do get grease on them, that grease gets cleaned off. It gets cleaned off the fields and it gets cleaned off the recessed devices, it isn&#039;t just left there. And during that cleaning the lines on the devices would be produced.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes I agree, when an ASE die is hubbed the devices do not get polished afterwards like the fields do. However, I also know that there are several different processes that the die goes through after it is hubbed, such as cutting of the keyways used during the hubbing process, polishing the die, and frosting the devices. And that the die is closely examined for quality before during and after each of these processes. And that quality control would catch any flaw (especially one like this) created during the hubbing process resulting in the die being discarded, and most likely the guilty hub being discarded as well. So the chances of what&#039;s on this coin having been created during the hubbing process are nil.</p><p><br /></p><p>edit - And let&#039;s not forget the most obvious point. If those lines had been produced during the hubbing process, the lines in the fields would have been polished away when the die was polished.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>When you do, please also notice that the affected areas of this coin have luster on them which is plain to see in that video, and his pictures. Then consider what I said in post #11 of this thread -</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And Dave, please understand, this is a discussion, not an argument. This isn&#039;t a question of somebody being right and somebody being wrong. This is a question of trying to figure out how this coin came to be. And to do that I have considered the points I have made, and it is that consideration that led me to my conclusions. I ask you to consider the same things.</p><p><br /></p><p>edit - So, as I see it, of the 3 possibilities I mentioned above, #1 and #2 simply are not possible, for the reasons I have given. That leaves only one - #3. So no matter how unlikely it seems, #3 pretty much has to be the answer.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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