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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2367896, member: 112"]There are several initial comments I could make to start this off but I think I'll go with this one - the coin has not been harshly cleaned, and those are not die polish lines.</p><p><br /></p><p>And those reading this are probably asking themselves something like - how and why could you possibly say such a thing ? Answer, easy all you have to do is look closely at the coin, and have an accurate understanding of die polishing and harsh cleaning of coins. And then think things all the way through.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, just like has been mentioned we know that die polish lines cannot be on the devices. But some of the devices on this coin do have lines on them, and that's one of the keys to this - only some of them have lines on them, not all of them. Look at the coin closely, the lines on the devices can only be seen here and there. And if the coin had been harshly cleaned, harsh enough to make lines like what we see in fields, then the devices would also have an equal number of lines, if not more because the devices stand up above the fields and thus would be subject to more pressure and contact from the harsh cleaning than the fields would be. But that isn't what we see. What we see are a lot of lines on the fields, with only a line here and there on the devices.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if the coin wasn't harshly cleaned and those are not die polish lines then what did happen ? Answer, again easy, the die was harshly cleaned. With the die the fields are the high point and if harshly cleaned the fields are subjected to the most pressure and contact and thus have the most lines. While the devices are recessed, lower than the fields, and thus subjected to hit and miss contact with whatever was being used to clean the die. This explains why the devices only have hit and miss lines.</p><p><br /></p><p>Another clue that what I'm describing above is true is what the OP said - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If it had been the coin that was harshly cleaned then that comment could not be true because the luster would have been destroyed by the harsh cleaning. But if the die had been harshly cleaned, the metal would still flow when the coin was struck and the luster would be there as it should be, and is, according to the man who has the coin in hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, why would the die be harshly cleaned and what could cause lines like that ? When coins are being struck the machinery produces small metal particles from wear and tear. Those metal particles can sometimes accumulate and get stuck in the grease on the machines. And that grease can sometimes be transferred to the dies. When it is it must be cleaned off, usually wiped off with rag. And wiping that gritty grease away is what causes the die scratches which are more prevalent on the fields than they are on the devices.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2367896, member: 112"]There are several initial comments I could make to start this off but I think I'll go with this one - the coin has not been harshly cleaned, and those are not die polish lines. And those reading this are probably asking themselves something like - how and why could you possibly say such a thing ? Answer, easy all you have to do is look closely at the coin, and have an accurate understanding of die polishing and harsh cleaning of coins. And then think things all the way through. For example, just like has been mentioned we know that die polish lines cannot be on the devices. But some of the devices on this coin do have lines on them, and that's one of the keys to this - only some of them have lines on them, not all of them. Look at the coin closely, the lines on the devices can only be seen here and there. And if the coin had been harshly cleaned, harsh enough to make lines like what we see in fields, then the devices would also have an equal number of lines, if not more because the devices stand up above the fields and thus would be subject to more pressure and contact from the harsh cleaning than the fields would be. But that isn't what we see. What we see are a lot of lines on the fields, with only a line here and there on the devices. So if the coin wasn't harshly cleaned and those are not die polish lines then what did happen ? Answer, again easy, the die was harshly cleaned. With the die the fields are the high point and if harshly cleaned the fields are subjected to the most pressure and contact and thus have the most lines. While the devices are recessed, lower than the fields, and thus subjected to hit and miss contact with whatever was being used to clean the die. This explains why the devices only have hit and miss lines. Another clue that what I'm describing above is true is what the OP said - If it had been the coin that was harshly cleaned then that comment could not be true because the luster would have been destroyed by the harsh cleaning. But if the die had been harshly cleaned, the metal would still flow when the coin was struck and the luster would be there as it should be, and is, according to the man who has the coin in hand. Lastly, why would the die be harshly cleaned and what could cause lines like that ? When coins are being struck the machinery produces small metal particles from wear and tear. Those metal particles can sometimes accumulate and get stuck in the grease on the machines. And that grease can sometimes be transferred to the dies. When it is it must be cleaned off, usually wiped off with rag. And wiping that gritty grease away is what causes the die scratches which are more prevalent on the fields than they are on the devices.[/QUOTE]
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